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[–] GrumpyDuckling 81 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I would drop the "no censorship" "free from manipulation" and "true freedom of speech" none of those are technically true and the later is associated with extremist rhetoric.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah a lot of Luigi sentiment was toasted directly by admins, so, you know

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Specifically in .world, which is the instance they are advertising.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

idk why they picked world over lemmee or shitjustworks, both of those seem like better picks

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Tbh i am not a fan of any of those points:

  • Free from Manipulation: Malicious actors can still make dummy accounts to influcence scores and there is also nothing inherent in the system that truly prevents manipulative content

  • No Censorship. No tracking: Censorship can still happen on a instance basis through bans or defederation, althought those are also necessary tools for other reasons. And no tracking imo also is missleading, simply because everything posted here is public (including up/downvotes), there simply isn't true privacy in a public forum. It's better in that it doesn't follow you around to other websites and such, but still putting it so difinitive is wrong.

  • True freedom of speech: Kind of overlaps with the "no censorship" part i think.


What the fediverse is to me is:

  • Diversity and freedom of choice

  • Resilience against central control

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Experience from 12 days ago from someone using join-lemmy: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35480016

In summary: it was quite messy, they ended up on a unmaintained, slow instance and had to change

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

ok but lemmy.world still shouldn't be the default

[–] Slax 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Maybe link to a site with a list of instances and their locale?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

There's this Github page but it might not be user friendly enough.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

"Lemmy has 42k monthly active users

Feel free if you have any questions"

Those two instances should fit everyone's need.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That thread shows everything wrong with lemmy at the moment.

"Go to lemmy.world"
"No, we need to fight centralization. Go to lemmy.ml instead."
"No, those are tankies. Go to lemmy.ee [sic] or sh.itjust.works."
"I've switched and now can't see any posts."
"Yeah, you need to ctrl+select English and Undetermined as languages in the settings."
"Use this client, it costs money but it's only a one-time purchase".
"No, use that client."
"I used that client, but got only server errors."
"Well, it Works On My Machine^TM^."

When you've been on Lemmy for a while this might all make some sort of sense, but to everyone else, this is complete and utter madness.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Honestly this is normal for new ecosystems. Right now lemmy is still mostly only attractive to reddit refugees who are also tech nerds. Streamlining will come in time and then the floodgates for eternal summer will open and ruin the platform 🙏

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

This graphic is where I found out about lemmy and brought me here!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Welcome, welcome! Great job, escaping corporate pushes. Great job.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong 3 points 1 week ago

Welcome and see you around.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Should be "no known corporate" tracking or something along those lines.

By interacting with social media, you are creating a trail, such as I do now.

But in the fediverse, no known entity is granted access to that data as a business model or known force.

[–] captain_aggravated 3 points 1 week ago

There is a certain "if Jim from up the street can read it, everyone can" factor.

But, on Facetube or Youbook, they know how long to the millisecond something is on screen, so not only what you've posted yourself but what you've paid attention to and how much. They're watching you even when you think you're not transmitting anything.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

it would be really nice if Lemmy.world closed their registrations and ability to create new communities so other instances could catch up...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Their failure to do so is inherently their statement to the decentralised nature of the fediverse, that being „Fuck you people, we are the next reddit, and y'all are just trash”.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

that would just confuse ppl trying to sign up, theyd think the whole forum is closed

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Love the style. Makes me think that we should start a repository with original files that people can download and iterate on + share with their communities. Do you know if something like that exists / would you be interested in creating and promoting a repository together?

I made a graphic of my own quickly last night but I definitely don't have your talent for graphic design lol

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I agree with those statements if you're just a consumer. However, if you're some sort of content creator, the story is slightly different: your audience might be still solely on the platforms you're trying to avoid.

Example: I'm a hobbyist photographer; I have like maybe 1000 people following me in total across Facebook and Instagram. I signed up for Pixelfed a few days ago; haven't explored much yet, but I'd be surprised if I see even one person I know there. Even if I start posting on Pixelfed exclusively, my photos will probably still end up on Facebook and Instagram, possibly with zero credit. Maybe if I start posting to Pixelfed in parallel and slowly move away from Meta, I don't know...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

For creators, the best choice is probably to post parallel, distributing your content on as many platforms as feasible. That way, you reach even people who only have one of those, and also lower the migration barrier for consumers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

More problematically, nobody was getting paid to Reddit, But Instagram, YouTube and TikTok are some peoples income, and they really don't have any strong inclination to leave paying platforms. A lot of the truly wild viral content is coming from people trying to make a living out of it.

We are going to have true social interactions on the fediverse. But without algorithmic discovery and paid performers, a lot of people aren't going to come over. And honestly, I'm just fine with that.

I do wish we could get a solid foot in the Facebook door. There's an awful lot of semi-private data there that people aren't getting paid to post that could be free of big media pincers and wallets.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The other side of this is that click through rates on legacy social has cratered. Almost certainly due to bot driven inflated engagement metrics.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I was talking to a friend who posts on IG, and has gotten a Pixelfed acct in the past week. They were saying, as we hiked in the wilderness under cloudy skies, less than ideal conditions, that I was the only person they knew on Pixelfed. A few hours later they txt’d me the handle of another friend of theirs, who is on Pixelfed. 100% increase in a few hours. Don’t be afraid of Pixelfed. Jump in with both feet! Be afraid of your Meta incarceration. Join us! We’ll have a great time! @[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

OP, I know it's not your graphic, but there's a typo towards the top ("redifine" should be "redefine") if you want to pass it along

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not sure if LW is the best choice as for some people it's very slow: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36299751

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

lemmy.world

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

And post banned on that subreddit for mentioning a r*ddit alternative in 3... 2... 1...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I'm all in for fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Edit: nvm

What I want to say is

Drop the "Free Speech" narrative


~~Nah. There's no "freedom of speech"~~

~~There's more freedom, not not really true free speech~~

~~Want real freedom of speech? Go on Briar Public Forums.~~

~~You can say things like "Kill [insert name of prominent individual here]" and your comments will stay up.~~

~~There is zero censorship.~~

~~The down side is that, the userbase is like less than 100 (I assume) and there's barely any activity.~~

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

This graphic is simple and great. This is what most people are going to want to know.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Alas, people are flocking to that garbage corporate owned bluesky instead of using mastodon :(

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Honestly, BlueSky is a lot better than the mainstream social sites. I'm certainly not mad about it. Not to mention

X -> BlueSky -> Mastodon

is a lot easier for some than

X -> Mastodon

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I had not heard of loops.video

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