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No further info in the article as it's breaking news. NBC broke into the inauguration to announce it.

Biden pardoned his entire family and their spouses as Trump directly threatened all of them.

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[–] [email protected] 303 points 1 week ago (15 children)

An outgoing president needing to pardon his family pre-emptively because the incoming president is threatening them is well along the path to fascism.

Good job electing Trump you fucking morons. I hope that the consequences of your own actions hurt you more than they hurt the rest of the world.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago

... well along the path to fascism.

Oh, we're already there.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Good job electing Trump you fucking morons.

I'd like to thank the Gaza single issue voters and bLuEMagA mouth breathers, good job guys!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gaza was either not big enough to affect the result, or big enough where your candidate should have acknowledged it. You can’t have it both ways.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

But muh scapegoat :(

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Social media manipulation like in 2016 should really be a part of the scapegoat club

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

FWIW, as an American, I really hope you're right. Because there is serious potential for us to fuck up the entire rest of the world for a very, very long time.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The US fucked up the world a long time ago, we're all entering the find out phase now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey, we're Britain's fault!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

And Britain is the Anglo-Saxons' fault!

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[–] [email protected] 167 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Giving his family the last train car out of germany before the third reich shuts down the border.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (5 children)

They may want do just that. Do anyone believe Trump will honor these pardons. Also are they even valid if they haven't been charged with a crime.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 36 points 1 week ago

It’s not about whether or not he honors them. The effectiveness of those preemptive pardons can be adjudicated by the SC. But there’s a couple of considerations on that front:

  • will the SC concur that blanket pardons in advance of any charges are actually allowed?
  • will Trump want to challenge that, since it would potentially kneecap any effort he makes later in that regard?

But also:

  • will Trump or the SC give a shit about the blatant hypocrisy and double standard if they do strike down this sort of thing from Biden, but let Trump do it? (IMO probably not)
  • if the SC gives a shit but Trump doesn’t, what’s to stop him using leverage and/or stochastic terrorism to help accelerate the conclusion of one or more justices’ tenure so he can slip someone more agreeable in?
  • will the judicial branch even exist in an independent fashion in 4 years?

TL;DR: who fuckin knows at this point

[–] iAmTheTot 9 points 1 week ago

Their validity has never been constitutionally challenged. It's not really been done much in the past, the notable example being Nixon and no one challenged that.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

If you have to pardon your family since the future felon president is assuming office that has no safeguards against dictatorship, then you really should've just have the next guy arrested and sent to quackamole bay

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago

Perfectly normal country

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sad. In "The Land of the Free" you should never have to do this. We are well and truly fucked if this tribalism isn't put down. Cutting into our education has done irreparable damage.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I really have a hard time with this position that there’s a “peaceful transfer of power” yet there’s a fear in the outgoing administration expecting retribution.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The next few years will need a shitload of popcorn lmao

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Years? I give it a month... 25% tarrifs start 2/1.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I hope everyone gets what they voted for.

Including those who didn't vote

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I don't care, and frankly don't blame him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

People in Guantanamo are rotting away but Bidens family must be protected.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Both things can be true

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I wasn’t aware that James Biden had won the Masters tournament

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