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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Plus, they still have slavery! In the constitution it says slavery is not allowed, "except when incarcerated". There are states where incarcerated people, convicted by a corrupt justiciary system, are forced to work without pay.

Plus, they just elected an autocratic hate and fear spreading idiot who is a puppet of Putin and does everything in his power to make the US an even worse oligarchy.

The world isn't just watching, the world is watching in extreme horror and disgust.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The world isn't just watching, the world is watching in extreme horror and disgust.

To be fair some are looking for ideas, the Americans are not the only ones with issues.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

But they are one of the most influential in the world, and THE most influential ally we have.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

We have slavery in our everyday lives without being incarcerated, we are debt slaves, we are wage slaves without freedom of movement.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Plus, they just elected an autocratic hate and fear spreading idiot who is a puppet of Putin and does everything in his power to make the US an even worse oligarchy.

Oh sure, but we do that with every President. Trump's a Putin Puppet. The Clintons Shill for China. Biden bent backwards for Israel. They're all deeply in the bag for the Saudis.

That's before you get to Musk or Gates or Bob Iger or David Solomon absolutely leading our national leadership around by the nose

The world isn’t just watching, the world is watching in extreme horror and disgust.

They've been watching since Nixon. But they still keep cashing our checks, so they can't be that upset.

Guys like Starmer and Truduea and Shultz were lining up to kiss the ring as soon as the election results came in.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They've been watching since Nixon. But they still keep cashing our checks, so they can't be that upset.

It's the other way around. The US national debt is more than it's GDP. Where do you think they borrow that money from. We just don't want the US as an enemy because we want our money back. And so far the US has been the only country fucked up enough to drop not just one, but 2 nukes, not to wipe out military targets but 2 entire cities.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The American people voted a traitor into power that actively works for a hostile foreign power to destroy their country. And yet they can themselves patriots. Pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, I didn't vote for that bag of shit

[–] minibyte 26 points 1 month ago

Not enough people voted, period.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

That traitor is capitalism. And until people stop supporting that trader it will only further degrade

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It took centuries for the Roman Republic to fall. At some point in time, they were past the point of no return without themselves even realizing it.

I think we are in that position now. We have been on the decline for more than a decade now, and have had several opportunities to correct or reverse course, but the wrong decision is made at every opportunity because it's far easier for powerful influential people to increase their power, wealth and status at the expense of everyone else and suffer no consequences for doing so than it is for them to sacrifice their own power, wealth, and status for the benefit of the collective. Are we past the point of no return? I'd say an argument could be made for either yes or no, but we are undeniably closer to the precipice than we have ever been as a nation since the Civil War (which never truly ended).

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

The US has been on the decline since the 80s. It's been propped up on a strong economy and tech domination, but it's losing its lead, and late stage capitalism is rotting it from the inside out. Reagan really got this crazy train going

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

This sums up how it feels to me as well. To me it was pretty much the eighties with deregulation and lowering taxes and globalization.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Nah we're at the part when Rome when from Republic to dictatorship

[–] tja 60 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's not just the US, but they are the fastest on this path

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

It's a yuge problem!

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

From where I sit on Canada’s western end, I honestly expect America to never have a legitimate/meaningful election again.

As in, over the next 4 years the GOP will erode the election system such that it becomes equally as meaningful as elections in Russia or North Korea - theatre and a thin veneer of legitimacy, but nothing more. That the GOP will work things such that they will never “lose” another election, making America a permanent one-party state, no matter how many people would want them out of power.

The scary thing is, Canada risks much the same if “PeePee” (Pierre Poilievre, of the Canadian Conservative Party) gets elected. The man is a snake-oil salesman who is always eager to tell you what the problem is and who is to blame, but who almost never had any solution for the problem. Even his “axe the tax” shtick is a “solution” in desperate need of a problem to solve, will hurt working-class Canadians far more than it will help them, and is only meant to reduce taxation on the wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was decided in 2010 with "citizens united"

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was decided in 2000 with "Bush v. Gore"

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Been an American in America for 4 decades. From my perspective American decline is undeniable. It is simple fact.

Largely because we can't connect the dots and accept that we should be focusing on the class war, not the culture war, because that's the root of the problem. A lot of the hate and ignorance in America comes from desperation. We're desperate because we aren't losing, we've lost, a class war.

In my opinion the election that just happened was the nail in the coffin. We came together and the majority of us decided to let our oligarchs assume total control. It was a signal to them that they're good to be open about it now, too.

RIP to the middle class.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well said. We have indeed lost. Perhaps we can wipe the slate clean and start anew. I fear even if we did that though, there's enough of the population that would prefer the old way that something better could never come to fruition.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Perhaps we can wipe the slate clean and start anew.

History indicates that to do so will require a lot of time, violence, and death. And without a plan in place for what comes afterwards, we'd just end up with another shitty system.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

Don't worry, it's obvious from the inside too.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

To be fair a casual understanding of history shows they're practicing Christianity as it always has been

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

The average life of an Empire is about 250 years. It's just about time.

[–] Kecessa 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Man, let me tell you about what's coming to Canada, you won't believe it!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I love that Gladiator, the 2000 film, showed us Commodus a rich emperor who was insanely obsessed with getting everyone's attention and the US has Elon Musk showing everyone that he wants to be at least knows as the best digital gladiator of video games while we have Nero/Trump watching the city burn.

It is like we are working on The Decline of an Empire: Greatest Hits! double gate fold album for 2025.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (11 children)

A fall from greatness is inevitable and I'm afraid that the fall of America, with all of her hubris, is going to be spectacularly bloody and unpleasant for everyone. :(

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They say Rome wasn’t built in a day. But also overlook that the Roman empire didn’t fall in a day either. It was a very gradual process.

So the real question is, if the US were to fall, would it be a quick or gradual process?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

It already fell, so I guess the real question is how long it takes for people to realize it.

The three branches of government are wholly owned by the triad of evangelicals, Moscow, and a billionaire, they don't have any intention of following the law or constitution, and won't give up power. America is dead.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Gradual and ongoing since at least 1980.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well, hopefully you can avoid Poilievre. Otherwise, you might be joining us on the crazy train.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Anything for profit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

you accepting refugees yet?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Accepting? They gave Yaroslav Hunka a standing ovation in parliament.

Canada loves refugees of the correct political persuasion.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

It’s not like there would be any housing available for us if they did

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