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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 hours ago (5 children)

Lies, damn lies, and graphs that don't have the Y-axis starting at 0.

10% growth in a day is nice, but far from a revolution. Let's see this trend going for a month.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Monthly active users increased by 43% between 13 and 14 January: https://pixelfed.fediverse.observer/dailystats

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone here is arguing that the entire world will be using pixelfed by the end of the year, and that its usage will expand to other galaxies by the end of the decade.

It's a comment about the current growth curve, and it is both accurate and interesting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Lemmy had the same jump in numbers during the Reddit Exodus. Mastodon had a huge boost when Elon bought Twitter.

Every spike has been a followed by a slide back to baseline in less than a couple of months. After you've seen it happen so many times, it is no longer interesting.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

The fact that you believe these platforms were the same before and after these events makes it sound like you were not, in fact, there to see it happen. In my experience, it permanently changed both platforms, transforming them from weird niche sites to genuine alternatives.

That said, what you find interesting or not is not any of my business.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 minutes ago (1 children)

This thread (and others in that post) might interest you: https://communick.news/post/2320430/4138857

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah, I know I shouldn't bother. I am just annoyed by the misconception that all graphs should always start in 0 on the Y axis, as if it was some law of nature. Shouldn't allow myself to get dragged in further. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 minutes ago

Good mindset :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 28 minutes ago

I am here since before the Reddit backout and I am on Mastodon since 2018. Lemmy was at 15k MAU, went up to over 125k and now is 1/3 of that. Mastodon had 1M something before Elon, hit up close to 2M and now is sitting around 800k.

Sure, if your reference point is waaaay before the spikes then what we have now seem "a lot". However, my point is that these spikes are far from being indicative of mass adoption.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago

I still can't get a loops account.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago (3 children)

does anyone know why this sudden uptick?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 29 minutes ago

Meta recently decided to viciously lick Trump's ass by, among other things, allowing hate speech on their platforms.

Not everyone is impressed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 minutes ago

Along with people being unhappy with Meta, and the looming TikTok ban, Pixelfed just now released apps for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago

Meta has changed their ToS. Prior, you could not accuse someone of being mentally ill without consequence. Now there is an exception allowing shitty people to accuse someone of being mentally ill if they are gay or trans. It's seriously fucked up.

Also, Mark Zuckerberg, the ostrich fucker, removed the fact checker from Meta services.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I signed up, though I generally don’t like following individuals and much prefer groups or communities like Lemmy. Gotta support independent social media.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I found following hastags I'm interested in to work better for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

This also works really well for Mastodon. Gets your feed going super easily.

[–] Skiluros 114 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago) (5 children)

To be fair, the Y-Axis doesn't start from zero.

That being said, 10% account growth in 2 days is pretty solid. Let's hope both account creation and engagement metrics (MAUs/DAUs) keep growing.

EDIT: Correct Axis type.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Pedantic: You mean Y-axis, right? Technically, neither start at zero but I think you meant Y based on context.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, all time based graphs should start at the big bang.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 minutes ago

I actually wish this were true. Sure, they would show the snippet for the time we care about, but they MUST provide the source graph that contains all data back to the Big Bang. Specifically the Plank Era, we don’t want a graph where time doesn’t exist, that would make the graph useless.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

Isn't that a 1‰ growth or am I mathing wrong?

Edit: I'm wrong and that's why I shouldn't comment first thing in the morning. The math is mathing, I'm just not braining.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

You are mathing wrong. The GP is correct, except for the fact that it applies to the Y axis.

(... it's a much smaller change on the X axis anyway, something with 10 zeros before the first non-zero digit...)

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 hours ago

Just a FYI, Dan who made Pixelfed also does Loops and a few other Fedi projects in case people want more cool stuff to play with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

The heard "someday" there will be Groups...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

hmmm.. I never tried out pixelfed. I will now.

edit: oauth not working :/

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

I wish they would put the official app on F-Droid. I use PixelDroid, but it'd still be nice to try.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Pixelix just showed up on F-Droid two days ago, the dev open-sourced their code just recently. I find it to be a "better" (subjective :) ) client than PixelDroid after testing it for a bit. $0.02 to any readers. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.daniebeler.pfpixelix/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 42 minutes ago

It has dark mode, btw.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

the official app is much slower and less polished than PixelDroid and Pixelix.

they do have their own F-droid repo, though https://fdroid.pixelfed.net/fdroid/repo

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently the official app has a few dependencies that themselves depend on Google Play services, hence being blocked for F-droid inclusion.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Oh no, Metas profits!! How will they live in a slightly better world now?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago

By blocking all mention of Pixelfed on their platforms.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

@Evil_Shrubbery @korendian I hope they perish, a truely evil corp. They ones ecperimented with making folks depressed because depressed people are more sensitive to impulse buying.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Gotta have an official app, that’s the only reason I made an account and posted anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Pretty sure the official app has been in testing for a while. And I feel like I heard recently it's releasing a stable build.

In case I'm wrong though, there's always PixelDroid and the recently released Pixelix.

Also, like most fediverse apps, the first-party, official apps are always very basic and more of a proof-of-concept kind of thing. In most cases you'd be better served with third-party apps.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What are you supposed to put in the "server url" field in Pixelix? I put the instance I have an account on, because I don't have any other information that would make sense to put there, but nothing happens when I tap the arrow.

Also, what the fuck, fediverse. It's exactly this kind of bullshit that's why nobody joins you. Fix it for Christ's sake. Something this unintuitive doesn't even belong in a beta build. If I was a paid instagram plant making this app to frustrate people into going back to instagram, this is the splash screen I'd use. Stop making it impossible to recommend you in good faith to people I like.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

I don't know about that app specifically, but I know some fediverse apps do not have all instances in their directory. For example, fedilab doesn't have friendica.world. I would suggest hunting around for an app that supports your instance, but I agree, it is a dumb problem. What is the point of being able to join whatever instance you want if it is not listed on the app?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

325,000 users? Had no idea.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago

Impressive indeed

Both sites have different monthly active users numbers, but between 42k and 52k is quite impressive

[–] agentshags 2 points 2 hours ago

Can I use my Lemmy info, or do I need to make a new account

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago

wow, it's really cool. I have also made an account on gram.social (pixelfed server). so far I am liking it :)

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