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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully all the drama around this can motivate more creators off ByteDance, Meta, and Alphabet platforms and onto fedi platforms like PeerTube and Loops.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mbin, Pixelfed, Lemmy, Mastodon, etc. are all enshittification-resistant too

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm just curious here, what if a large instance (like lemmy.world for example) says that anyone federating with instance X gets defederated? They would miss out on a lot of interactions.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

At the end of the day users have to police their instances by leaving if the policies are too draconian for them. Casual users on a big enough instance might not care too much at first, but I think there would be a slow but ever-increasing migration off-instance.

It really depends on how many users disagree with the policy. My last instance defederated Threads and I didn't agree but didn't care enough to leave. It was database issues that lingered for months that made me leave and I don't know my current server's policy on Threads.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Is there a genuine question there? That sounds like a feature rather than a bug. If you don't like it, move to another instance or make your own.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

How do those platforms survive though? Any media centric federated platform will require a lot of funding if it's successful. Grants and donations only take them so far. So to avoid serving ads that probably means subscription fees. Is there revenue sharing for creators? Will the platforms be designed for either or does each instance have to roll their own? There's a lot of unanswered questions. All the things that made YouTube dominant required a lot of investment, especially in hardware. No peertube instance will ever be half as efficient as YouTube is behind the scenes. Which means their costs will be way higher.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it would be Elmo’s Vine now.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Guess we need a federated/open source version of what Vine was then.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think that’s what Loops is, but I haven’t tried it out

[–] Codilingus 2 points 3 months ago

It's nice and works very well, but lacks a user base.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Loops doesn't have an app?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't find it have a link to it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I don't remember where I got it but it's definitely on my phone. Try this

https://github.com/px-loops/loops-rn/releases/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

It seems to have an iOS app, but it's also evidently still in development.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

It's not an alternative.... You literally have to have a Tik Tok account to use Lemon8

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

what are your thoughts on Koo app? it was found when our government (UP) started mass censorship of twitter in 2019 nov, this lead to people migrating to mastodon and some created koo as alternative of twitter

koo is also popular in brazil and nigeria

also a funny incident i want to share

After crises involving the acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk in 2022, Koo became an attractive social network for Brazilian users.[15] According to one of the founders, Aprameya Radhakrishna, until 16 November, only two thousand Brazilian users used Koo, which placed Brazil in position 75 on the list of countries with the most lifetime unique users. On the 18th alone, more than a million Brazilians registered on the social network, which placed Brazil in second place on the list.[16] The app featured at number 1 in the Google's Play Store and Apple's App Store in Brazil. Soon Portuguese support was added in the App.[17] Koo received so many submissions and comments that the site became unstable. Personalities such as Felipe Neto, Casimiro, Bruno Gagliasso and Pocah created their accounts on the social network. The name "Koo", which has the same pronunciation as "cu", a vulgar term for the anus in Portuguese language, drew attention of users.[18] Koo held a poll on Twitter asking Brazilians if the name of the social network should be changed, which was rejected. Koo reached the Top 3 of Twitter's trending topics in Brazil.[19]

the app later shut down in 2024

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

koo is also popular in brazil

I think that was mostly for the funny name, but I don't think they held monthly active users since the 2022 Twitter drama in Brazil.

Bluesky is a much more realistic twitter alternative there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But what about Lemon Party

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Old internet remembers

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago