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I bought a 47" or 49" tv for a few hundred AUD - it was a dumb TV - 1080p from memory. Thing lasted 10 + years, reasonable picture quality and only needed a Chromecast and eventually got a ShieldTV.

That TV since died after 4 moves, two of which were 350km+ but man it was money well spent.

We've now got a 60something" Hisense which is a bloated crapware box, it's not allowed on the network; same with the reverse cycle dryer, or any "smart" home appliance. The volume of traffic these devices send wherever is absurd.

Sceptre makes a decent dumb tv.

I have one. I like it. 4k. Good enough for me.

Check out “commercial” TVs. These are TVs for businesses (e.g. displaying a menu at a restaurant). They typically don’t have the “smart” features. You have to look for them specifically.

This is where I would go to research a new tv https://www.rtings.com/

https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.html Dumb tvs

This is good advice, but I really wish we lived in a world where consumers could bond together and get laws passed that make this type of crap illegal so that buying TV's (or any type of appliance for that matter) didn't involve having to do research on weird non-consumer hardware just to have a nice experience.

EDIT: some morons in my replies keep on saying shit about "voting republican" and We Do In OtHeR CoUnTRiEs. I'm not american, I don't live in america, and I cannot remember the last time I set foot in america. Shut the fuck up, nobody asked you.

They cost like 5x more because they're marketed toward businesses. https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/pro-tv/bh-series/65-bht-series-qled-4k-uhd-hdr-pro-tv-terrace-edition-lh65bhtelgfxgo/

Or just don't buy Samsung. Never had this kind of trouble with any other brand except Samsung. Because of this, I'll never ever buy another Samsung product.

Always have been.

That ad is not over HDMI. Its a smart TV it inserts the ad on its own.

Why would this need "deliver ads over HDMI". It's on the telly, ie the HDMI signal has already been transmitted and now the TV itself is overlaying web-derived images in one corner, the same way it will overlay the guide or whatever when you open it.

This really seems to be the right answer. At least while computer monitors stay dumb.

Get one of those tiny PCs that you can just leave behind the TV, get a wireless mouse and keyboard too.

Nothing on TV isn't available online anyway. Paying the cable company for anything more than an Internet connection seems like setting money on fire to me. Maybe sports would be difficult, but that can literally be found if you know what you're doing. Even games you wouldn't be able to with TV.

Cable TV just seems to me like a boomer's version of the Internet. It has no place in a world with the Internet, change my mind. The ads on TV are worse than what you find on any popular website/app.

But as usual, capitalism is messing everything up with the marketing. In a world where hi speed Internet is widely available, "TV" just has no use. None. And worse, the commercials are now leaking through your literal screen.

I'm not saying that ads aren't a problem, but there's a hell of a lot more you can do about them.

In a perfect world, there would be a place you could go whenever you wanted something and find products and solutions for that thing, and there wouldn't be ads in anything else at all.

But until there's an actual argument to say TV technology isn't totally worthless, my stance is simply "no TVs are necessary or useful".

I don't like sound bars, you can take my old 5.1 Yamaha system out from my cold hands!

It really doesn't sound too good to replace? It sounds like you got free junk, and haven't actually bought a TV yet?

My LG has none of this. Any advertising/ai can be disabled as can the network itself.