75 dollars per 15 minutes? Jesus, it's as if you're paying for their wage instead of the company, plus this is just the check-up
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Man you got to find a new eye doctor.
I certainly did. I only went to this place once.
Chiropractors are basically pseudo-scientists. They claim to be able to do all kinds of random crap by manipulating your back, like getting rid of headaches, helping you lose weight, curing addictions, and so on.
Honestly any real doctor referring you to a chiropractor should have their medical license revoked.
I already knew that and was somewhat upset that he did that. I was going to go back for a glasses/contact exam, but I'm going to cancel it now. No real eye doctor would ever refer anyone to chiropractor for anything. Maybe in passing, but a full on referral is bonkers.
It would make sense to be referred to a chiro for actual back pain, but yeah this just makes me wonder if a physician can financially benefit from recommending patients to other physicians (as long as the recommended physician manages to profit off of the patient).
He specifically mentioned that he had been to this chiro before and it cured him of pain he was having in his leg or something. It seemed scammy.
Not to be pedantic or dismissive. But optometrists are not medics. They are a specialized kind of health technicians, like an X-ray operator or a CT scan operator. They are only there to measure visual acuity deviations and consult about lenses and vision correction tech. Ophthalmologists, on the other hand, are eye medics, consult with one and they will more likely have better counsel to deal with eyestrain. Some people could be both, but it's very rare. Some countries demand the former to be under supervision of the latter. On some other countries optometrists practice freely. In either case, optometrists can't provide medical advice or prescribe any form of medicine or treatment.
US based optometrists are licensed medical providers, credentialed to diagnose and treat eye disease, including prescriptions for controlled substances. They are sometimes covered by medical insurance. The major scope of practice difference is that optometrists generally may not perform invasive surgery (though there are a few states that do allow optometrists to perform LASIK or post-cataract surgery laser procedures).
There are plenty of optometrists who work in glasses/contact lens shops and that's all they do. I wouldn't trust them to treat eye medical issues, at the very least because that's not what they commonly do all day. Larger optometry groups or optometrists that work in an ophthalmology group are more suited to disease care.
Ophthalmologists do have more training (they are medical doctors first with a 3-4 year eye specialty and sometimes a 1-2 year Fellowship training for subspecialists).
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Even medical professionals can fall for charlatans if the placebo effect worked on them.
There is one near me that claims they can cure seasonal allergies.
Sneezes are stored in the spine.
They are half covered by our insurance because sometimes they can help. The electro stimulation of muscles and what not for sports injuries.
I had some neck pain. They ask questions ( that sometimes doctors gloss over because they sometimes treat symptoms not the person). So chiro asks how I got here today (motorcycle), and what's my exercise regime like (powerlifting). So while a doctor might prescribe pain meds and mri of neck, chiro suggests to me could be weight of motorcycle helmet during gear shifts, but also asked specifics about weight lifting sets and order. Then made a recommendation to change the order. They suggested that doing certain heavy lifts first fatigued all muscle groups involved, meaning smaller exercise after was struggling to work effectively with proper form. They suggested moving the small target exercise first till fatigue, then the larger exercise. Also did the muscle elctro impulse stuff.
Neck pain did go away. Not sure which thing solved it though.
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It's worth remembering that chiropractors are not doctors, there's no science behind it and it's founder was an anti-vax, magnet-healing grifter who said he received the knowledge of chiropractics from the ghost of a dead doctor.
I would not go back to that optometrist.
My optometrist told me masks don't work, I told her she was wrong walked out and cancelled my follow up.
My general practitioner told me that he'd been keeping weather records for years and personally confirmed that climate change isn't real.
Honestly, I'm pretty sure that even his office staff had very little respect for him.
My go to response to this kind of shit is just saying "that's amazing" over and over until they run out of steam
It was a while ago, so I don't remember exactly how I responded, but it was probably just something like "oh, I see" followed by requesting the other practitioner in the office whenever I scheduled future appointments.
I'd report the optometrist to his licensing body.
For what though? Chiropractors are licensed medical practitioners in the eyes of the board. What would I report him for?
Are they? Well, that's disappointing.
Are you in the US? I highly doubt that any state in the US DOESN'T have licenses for chiropractors.
Most states do require a license for chiropractors to practice, but I'm not aware of any that require a medical license. They usually have their own board of chiropractors
Chiming in to echo what has already been said.
Chiropractors are not doctors, the pain relief they provide is temporary at best, and there is a very real chance to experience injury as a result.
Source: I am not a doctor, but I've spent a good part of my career designing spinal implants and instruments.
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Sounds like a scam. You should probably report that doctor. Wouldn't be surprised if they got kick backs for referrals.
Report to who? The Police?
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That's good. That's real good.
The optometrist has a license to practice. You can Google the email for the board in your state.
It seemed fly-by-night and janky in there. I should report his ass.
It is particularly absurd that he'd recommend a chiropractor for eyesight. The optic nerves don't go through the spine.
Do you have a Costco nearby?
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You really should.
In your specific case you managed to navigate the situation and develop your own therapy.
Imagine if someone had a more complex or serious issue and he referred them to a chiropractor.
Yikes, neck "manipulation" is dangerous, people have suffered paralysis and artery dissection. Glad you were able to sort this out on your own
I've always thought Chiropractors are bullshit. If it was real, why wouldn't they just be doctors?
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Neither are a medical doctor qualified to treat eye problems, though. You're looking for an ophthalmologist.
This is the real answer, right here. Optometrists are only to treat vision issues, and only with prosthetics (e.g., glasses and contacts). Opthalmologists are medical doctors with a specialty in eyes that can prescribe medications, diagnose diseases, and perform surgeries.
Btw chiropractice is "alternative" medicine
Chiropracty is a scam.
because if it worked it would just be called medicine
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Wouldn't that be a ch-eye-ropractor? /dad
Oof, man the number of people willing to take advantage of the trust people put in medicine is terrifying
Good on ya for smelling the bullshit before ya stepped in it
Always see if you can see a physical therapist instead of a chiropractor. It helps to see people that have medical training.
Look for a program called F.lux; Mac and Windows, unsure about Linux. But it lets you set the temperature of your screen to reduce eye strain without making adjustments to the monitor itself.
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