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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Except that the antivaxxers are in charge of the budget for pandemic preparedness.

So they're not just putting their heads in the sand, they're forcing our heads in the sand too

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The hottest illegal drug of 2025 will be black-market vaccines. Some will work, some will be placebos or worse (as happens when a supply chain is taken over by organised crime). The DEA will announce record-breaking seizures of “dangerous experimental drugs” from China. Those who can afford to will fly across the Atlantic to a country with walk-in vaccinations for noncitizens.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol (but more seriously I think that black market self administered injections would be too scary for the average person)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

My first thought was that it 100% depends on how scary the disease you're trying to treat is.

And then I remembered some folks were chugging horse dewormer during COVID and I'm not so sure anymore.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This exactly. I'm not worried about them. I'm worried as to whether I'll be able to survive without a vaccine.

That RFK will likely block. That Dr. Oz will likely prevent any study on.

We're entering fascism folks. Hold on to your butts.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Vaccines notwithstanding, I'm also worried about whether our food supply will be safe from their malarkey.

Good luck surviving tainted food supply chains with Commander Snake Oil and Captain Road Kill running things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Stuff like this is going to lead people like me to either raise my own food or buy as local as possible. Because all the safety nets will be cut and you won't be able to trust the government to do their job.

Which is exactly what they want. They want people to be as afraid of the government as they are.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doubtful, major pharma brands made a killing, they may be weird business monsters but they are still business monsters and will bend to the dollar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

More than business monsters, they're ego monsters.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, the last pandemic didn't kill off enough of them to solve the problem. So we'll have to hope this one will do the job.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I certainly hope nobody starts a MAGA pro-raw (non-chlorinated) chicken movement.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ah yes, chlorinated chicken.

Sound mighty good for you and the chicken, does it not? Chlorinated.

Banned everywhere except in the US due to low animal welfare standards (it hides diseases and other fuckery) and hygiene. (it hides bad hygiene during slaughter)

So yes, I do hope someone starts this movement and gets the US to acknowledge the troubles with it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it hides bad hygiene during slaughter

That's the beautiful part about washing with chlorine. It only kills pathogens on the outside, which is logical. Anything inside the meat probably survives that. However, the testing for these pathogens only happens on the outside, because usually that'd be sufficient - but it no longer is when you chloride.

Something else the US does differently is that eggs are washed and as such must be cooled because might remove the protective layer. Here in Germany, all eggs are sold non-refrigerated, and battery eggs are illegal, though unfortunately, caging is still legal to until 2029, and personally, I think buying eggs with any rating below "Bio" should be avoided whenever possible, better something with an additional animal welfare label like "Bioland" it "Naturland".

Industrial animal farming is disgusting as it is, but leave it to the US to capitalism it up a notch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeh, I’ve always thought chlorinated Chicken was an abomination. Non-chlorinated in this hypothetical near future would let the bad hygiene (and my god is the US bad at hygienic food production) wild on those owning the libs in 2025.

[–] Kecessa 6 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Reminded me of this: https://youtu.be/znI046F4FKg

I think if the bird flu became a thing, hopefully we can produce vaccine quickly. I know we already can do it with other flu, but the process is still time consuming, not sure if there's mRNA version of flu vaccine.

But knowing some conspiracy people, yeah I think this would be the hill they would die on. After covid, even if they saw their family and friends dying they would still say that they were murdered in hospitals, or infected with something else secretly or via chem trails.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just be sure you never miss a day of church. It is probably just allergies.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Jesus was the reason we survived this fake liberal disease.

Those deaths were just of old age or the flu.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"If she floats, she's a liberal commie witch. If she sinks she's with jesus!"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Win freakin win, baby

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

The religious ones I know are so much full of hate that I don't Jesus wants anything to do with them.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's weird that the party with the most "preppers" seems to not want to prepare. It's almost like prepping is just LARPing their chosen fantasy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Those "Preppers" who like to think they're the only ones prepared to do what it takes to survive the collapse of society are the same people who thought that wearing a cloth mask was an unacceptable trampling of their rights, too uncomfortable, or would kill them with CO2.

They are ABSOLUTELY just LARPing their chosen fantasy. The second it became even VAGUELY real they immediately crumpled.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Unless you can shoot the threat then peppers won’t be prepared to confront it.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Holy shit they just solved what the infectious disease researchers haven't been able to solve for decades!!

It seems so obvious now that they've said it! Just don't participate! It's that easy! If we just don't participate in the disease we don't get sick!

Genius!!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Funny how suddenly consent matters to them

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

If we just stopped testing...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well they're really not going to like it when reasonable countries close their borders to Americans due to this policy.

Ridiculous tariffs and now this. He really went to North Korea and thought, yeah autarky is definitely the model to copy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Yes they will, they'll love having a captive citizenship that can't flee.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They need to be reminded that Trump hired Fauci for his Covid task force. Any criticism of Fauci is criticism of Trump.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But also proceeded to talk over Fauci... 🙄

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Mostly to tell his followers to shoot up bleach, though, so I'm conflicted...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Well of course Trump talked over him. Fauci was his lowly employee.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We could accomplish a lot with a much more deadly version of COVID and a much more effective vaccine.

But I also don’t want my right wing friends to just die.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It only takes a few years to birth and grow equivalent new ones.

[–] Kecessa 3 points 1 week ago

That gives us 20 years of safety though, enough time to fix shit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

But I also don’t want my right wing friends to just die.

No, I hear ya... I, too, think they should suffer first... 🤣

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Ah, so the Republicans are the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Some things are beginning to make sense now.

[–] mindbleach 3 points 1 week ago

Reality is a team sport, to some people.

Everyone here has asked 'how can conservatives X when yesterday they Y?' and then tricked themselves out of the obvious answer: they don't care. Contradictions are meaningless, in their worldview. Truth is dictated by interpersonal trust. All that matters is ingroup loyalty. "Because" is just what you say before picking an excuse that sounds good.

If someone disproves your reasons for believing something, conservatives expect you to change your reasons, not your beliefs.

And they think that's all we're doing because they think that's all there is.

This is a complete, internally consistent, and stable worldview. It is not fragile.

Rational argument is a learned behavior. Hypocrisy doesn't bother conservatives because they are not arguing rationally. They mimic useful patterns to justify whatever they want next. I have no idea how to convince them we're not just parroting phrases as part of some tribal word game, when I can't even convince us that they aren't really interested in states' rights or small government.

These people are constantly telling you how they think.

Please believe them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bloo-skee seems a lot like Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

People need a cesspool, that’s what the internet has done to us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

the more we vet her, the cheaper the cost of housing. soon.