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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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Date Created: June 21, 2023

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When it chocolate rains, it chocolate pours.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

You magnificent bastard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hollow teeth and tartar, cuz when it rains it pours - fiddy

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't worry, guys. I've been assured that this system is perfectly meritocratic.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

"Merit can be whatever I say it is" - The Bourgeois~___~

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It is meritocratic.... for high quality organic beings.

Whose fault is it that stupid peasants assumed they were included?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man.

I’ve always taken care of my teeth.

I’m getting older and they’re falling apart. I can’t afford to get them β€œfixed” but hey, β€œwe’ll yank β€˜em out fer ya.”

K…

Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Coincidentally accurate comment for me. Just had a tooth that I had grown very fond over the years removed and left vacant because of the cost associated with replacing it rivaling that of cars I've bought in the past. As the teeth shift and get loose because of the missing soldier, I'll just have to allow them to fall out or have them pulled until I can have dentures made up.

I have dental insurance, it's just none of that necessary tooth replacement if you want to keep the rest of your teeth stuff is covered.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a tooth that I had grown very fond over the years

Found Chip Skylark.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Googling the name led me to this, and I think your comment fits the bill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IRdw_Qgwqc

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same boat here. I'm down 2 teeth already thanks to this bullshit medical system. 2 teeth I absolutely did not need to lose completely. Thanks guys. Also thanks Navy for pulling those wisdom teeth that didn't need to go, I really could have used them now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same for me. MC pulled my wisdoms literally while I was at Mt. Fuji. They just decided the entire platoon needed them gone. It didn't matter if yours were problematic(like leaning or sideways). If you had them, they took them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah they wouldnt listen to me wouldnt do x-rays, nothing. "Winsdom teeth bad, must go". Meanwhile I was very aware of the fact that I have sufficient jaw space for wisdom teeth. My dentist was really happy that I didn't have to get them removed.. fucking navy dental is so bad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Dental insurance is such a scam. (Honestly so is vision insurance)

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Worse than the direct cost is opportunity cost. Wealthy have money to invest and over time it snowballs. An eventful day in the market can swing their net worth more than the average person will earn in a year or maybe even a lifetime.

Think about what that means for an economy too. It means tons of folks are trapped in poverty cycles instead of innovating, starting businesses, or going to school and getting training etc. Because these things are all risky and require investment, which they can't do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It tends to lead to societal collapse eventually, but at least a tiny percentage of people are having a good time right now!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I came to the comments section just to see if anyone had posted Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Paying for healthcare is already bizarre as is. I still do not comprehend how Americans do not immediately revolt over this. Why exactly are you paying taxes for? If everything is privatized and costly... what's the explanation given for your taxes? I'm not being ironic, I truly do not understand.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are people who are convinced that the reason our healthcare is so expensive is because we "subsidize healthcare for the rest of the world." They live in this version of reality where exorbitant salaries of CEOs and dividends in the healthcare and drug industries are somehow not the cause of insulin creeping past $100/vial

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I was curious so I looked up Pfizer's executive compensation. A dozen or so directors make $400k but C suite tops out at a cool $33 mil for the CEO and $9.7 for COO. I'll never understand why shareholders put up with that, it's a leach on all of us. (The answer to my own question is that when management makes you an eye popping $31 billion net income in a year you don't ask questions.)

https://s28.q4cdn.com/781576035/files/doc_financials/2022/sr/Proxy-Statement-2023.pdf

[–] BarterClub 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because us Americans have been taught that this is how it is. And unfortunately only one side wants to change this.

Never fun thing when I have to leave a job and I lose my health insurance for the reason I’ve just losing a job. Or I can pay full amount for the insurance after I leave like $800 a month for one person.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neither side wants to change this lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One side is... more friendly to the idea of public services. I know what you're saying, but while the liberals and the fascists might be buddies, only one wants people to directly die.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

One side is… more friendly to the idea of public services

Correction: One side SAYS they're more friendly to the idea of public servies.

Those words are worthless because they don't do anything meaningful with their power to make said services a reality.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The real answer is that Americans conservatives genuinely hate the poor, and will happily double their own healthcare costs if it means denying poor people access to care. They will fight tooth and nail to preserve the system that rich white Americans can afford, but poor black people can't.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

It is important to view American politics through a prism of cruelty.

98% of our people are love the status quo as long as it punishes the right people.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The pentagon, mostly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Turns out humans are kind of awful. If you under-educate them enough and then feed them propaganda they'll believe almost anything. Also they're really resistant to change. Not a great combination of factors. You might have noticed their adverse effect on the climate lately...

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[–] ZombiFrancis 17 points 1 year ago

breathes away from microphone

He's right tho.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I've said this before as "being broke is expensive af."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

β€œThe reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles. But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet. This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.”

- Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms: The Play

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Barefoot mfs: I have no such weaknesses

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

If you have cancer and can't afford the treatment, you should just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and take care of that tumor yourself at home. Maybe start a small tumor removal business.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

That sweet man, I'll love him forever.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And that's not even talking about late fees, overdraft fees, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

My experience living in the USA has also illustrated that, in order to benefit from certain assistance programs such as income-based discounted rates on internet services (namely Xfinity in my region), you must first be actively receiving public assistance. In other words, to receive aid, you must already be receiving aid.

I have not found consistent work for over 15 months but earn enough money to pay rent, utilities, and cover basic meals. However, I don't want to receive public assistance as it would make me feel like I am "officially in need" or "poor" rather than overcoming a temporary obstacle. I say this because, for the average person, there may be very little blocking the temptation to pursue the maximum amount of public assistance possible, as corroborated by supplemental internet service rate programs. I simply wish to accept only what is needed and nothing more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Being poor is so incredibly expensive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It’s the fear your leaders call control.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hence why the minimum wage has been stuck at $7 in the US for fifteen years, no matter who we elect.

People like getting wealthier, and that includes our multi-millionaire Congress and president.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Federal minimum wage and state minimum wage are mostly vastly different. Feel free to fact check.

I do not disagree with your underlying point, but at least be accurate.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

State minimum wage is also lower than the Federal in a few states and most states for tipped workers.

So you lose me with this weak defense. Biden deserves every bit of criticism his administration receives for their inaction on wages.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I forgot that the President has full control of the Senate. Your issue is with Sinema or even the people of Arizona if you're as eager to find simple and idiotic places to point blame as you seem.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I am not here defending Biden or to pick a fight. Just pointing things out. Minimum wage where I live is at least double the federal. Unsure about tipped workers. Many states are higher. Maybe "mostly" was the wrong word to choose. Last I remember two states were lower; Mississippi and South Dakota.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And they still have to pay at least federal minimum wage, to tipped workers, and all other workers in those states.

It's a shit deal with the federal minimum being abysmal. But pulling politics into it and misrepresenting by omission, the facts, isnt exactly helping things

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hence why the minimum wage has been stuck at $7 in the US for fifteen years, no matter who we elect.

There are 30 states + DC that have minimum wage higher than the $7.25/hour of the Federal Minimum wage. Cities can also have a higher minimum wage than the state, so that would be possibly hundreds of cites/towns with higher than Federal Minimum wage. So I guess it does matter who you elect. Pay attention to the down ballot. Its not all Washington DC's job. Fix your locality. Fix your State.

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