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Luigi Mangione

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I mean, I'd love to send him something except I don't want to be on a watch list.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Couldn't you send an anonymous mail to him?

Just drive (or take public transit) to some town/city nearby and send it from there, use a printer that doesn't have those yellot tracking dots, don't leave fingerprints, drop the mail in an unattended post office box.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Which printers don’t leave dots?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

The EFF was attempting to keep track of this, but through FOIA requests they learned that every major brand uses dots.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People have been saying the "Brother" brand of printers don't have them, but I cannot confirm this since I never used them, nor do I have ways to detect yellow dots.

There are also programs that would add random yellow dots before you print it, so the yellot dot tracking would become useless since its flooded with extra yellot dots.

This would only work if you only send 1 page. Otherwise, they can likely compare the two and see where the dots are the same.

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

Monochrome ones.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Dot matrix doesn't have the yellow ID dots, but it is just dots.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

well since the dots are yellow, a monochromatic printer is probably better ….

i’d say go with a laser jet black and white….

to be extra paranoid, you could print it on one printer, and then put it in another one and print light noise and their hidden stuff might overlap and fuck it up…

or, write it by hand and use a stencil.

they can even use word frequency analysis but i doubt they’d go through all that trouble unless you sound like you’re going to do something yourself. (or they might spare no expense to protect the capitalist oligarchs).

p.s. there will be dna too

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Maybe, but I doubt most people are going through any kind of process to anonymize it.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Assume all printers have tracking info built into them. Buy a printer with cash, at a thrift store in a different from where you live. Never let the printer connect to the net.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It has to have a valid return address or else it will be rejected. I haven't found out if people from abroad are allowed to send him letters yet.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So? Put the local police station as the return address for giggles.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

Good idea, except I'm pretty sure that's gonna be rejected as invalid..

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Someone else mentioned a watch list to me. Who's list would you be on, and who would have access to it?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I think it's just assumed that government authorities are taking the info of people who make public statements of support for Mangione and putting them under increased scrutiny.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We do have a really arbitrary no fly list people end up on sometimes without knowing the reason at all.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

No, like everybody willing to pass their name through the prison's mail system.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Eh. If you're on your death bed and haven't been on at least one watch list, can you really be said to have lived at all?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

snort

Someone needs to knit that on a throw pillow.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’ve assumed that since bush 2 anything anti capitalist, anti imperialist, anti fascist puts you on a list. What list? Who knows.

With the advance of technology these days I think the “list” is more plausible than ever.

And then you know, snowdens leaks pretty much stated that the NSA is spying domestically without warrants.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's more likely that the idea of a "watch list" is obsolete at this point. Now they create elaborate records and psychological profiles of every person they can, domestically or abroad. They also likely track everyone's physical location as close to real time as possible.

Maybe that's how they actually caught Luigi. They caught him because they know everyone's physical location at all time. They just had to rewind the clock back a bit, see who was standing near Thompson at the moment of the shooting, and they instantly knew it was him.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah “the list” is now likely an in depth dossier about every single thing you’ve ever posted, who your friends and family are, what your vices are, where you frequently travel to, etc.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Is it me or is that not a lot? I saw the address for mail and donations posted everywhere for a few days. For all the hype, out of a nation of millions he got <100 letters and <200 donations?

Don't get me wrong, that's more than what a normal inmate gets but it really isn't that many.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Maybe they filtered them out because they send something like: "YOO DAWG WHAT YOU DID WAS LIT, YOU SHOULD DO MORE "DEPOSING" WHEN YOU GET OUT! Btw, I'm about to do some of them "deposing", any suggestions on how I should do it?"

I mean, prisons usually block communications that could be involved in planning a crime, first amendment rights doesn't really apply in prison.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Maybe more got rejected because they had nudes or something unacceptable in them

[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My parents are pretty left wing but they're definitely in the "killing CEOs bad" crowd.

While I'm here coming up with recipes for when we finally get to eat the rich

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

The proper way to cook billionaire is via rotisserie over an open flame. Don't power the rotisserie through a simple motor. Rather, have the spit be turned by human power. Specifically, the labor of another billionaire. Cook one billionaire and force another to walk a giant hamster wheel to turn the spit. The one on the tread wheel today goes on the spit tomorrow.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

I thought the same thing, but it does specifically say thats what he received. I want to know how many the prison received and filtered out / rejected

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is a bubble. It’s easy to think that Luigi’s popularity is near-universal judging by all the support he got here. But do you think he’s getting tons of support from tough-on-crime Republicans? I doubt it!

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I don't know. Ben Shapiro got ratioed by his own fans over it

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Don't send nudes. The prison censors won't give them to him. They wont even tell him he got some. 🥺

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying if someone were to say take pictures of their asshole and such, some one working the prison would have to examine it?

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago
[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yea, first amendment rights dont apply in prison. You have to water-down your thoughts to get it through.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

a bunch of amendments don't apply in prison