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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, I'd love to send him something except I don't want to be on a watch list.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Couldn't you send an anonymous mail to him?

Just drive (or take public transit) to some town/city nearby and send it from there, use a printer that doesn't have those yellot tracking dots, don't leave fingerprints, drop the mail in an unattended post office box.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Which printers don’t leave dots?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

The EFF was attempting to keep track of this, but through FOIA requests they learned that every major brand uses dots.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People have been saying the "Brother" brand of printers don't have them, but I cannot confirm this since I never used them, nor do I have ways to detect yellow dots.

There are also programs that would add random yellow dots before you print it, so the yellot dot tracking would become useless since its flooded with extra yellot dots.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

This would only work if you only send 1 page. Otherwise, they can likely compare the two and see where the dots are the same.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Monochrome ones.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Dot matrix doesn't have the yellow ID dots, but it is just dots.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

well since the dots are yellow, a monochromatic printer is probably better ….

i’d say go with a laser jet black and white….

to be extra paranoid, you could print it on one printer, and then put it in another one and print light noise and their hidden stuff might overlap and fuck it up…

or, write it by hand and use a stencil.

they can even use word frequency analysis but i doubt they’d go through all that trouble unless you sound like you’re going to do something yourself. (or they might spare no expense to protect the capitalist oligarchs).

p.s. there will be dna too

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe, but I doubt most people are going through any kind of process to anonymize it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It has to have a valid return address or else it will be rejected. I haven't found out if people from abroad are allowed to send him letters yet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So? Put the local police station as the return address for giggles.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Good idea, except I'm pretty sure that's gonna be rejected as invalid..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Assume all printers have tracking info built into them. Buy a printer with cash, at a thrift store in a different from where you live. Never let the printer connect to the net.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Someone else mentioned a watch list to me. Who's list would you be on, and who would have access to it?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I think it's just assumed that government authorities are taking the info of people who make public statements of support for Mangione and putting them under increased scrutiny.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We do have a really arbitrary no fly list people end up on sometimes without knowing the reason at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

No, like everybody willing to pass their name through the prison's mail system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Eh. If you're on your death bed and haven't been on at least one watch list, can you really be said to have lived at all?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

snort

Someone needs to knit that on a throw pillow.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’ve assumed that since bush 2 anything anti capitalist, anti imperialist, anti fascist puts you on a list. What list? Who knows.

With the advance of technology these days I think the “list” is more plausible than ever.

And then you know, snowdens leaks pretty much stated that the NSA is spying domestically without warrants.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's more likely that the idea of a "watch list" is obsolete at this point. Now they create elaborate records and psychological profiles of every person they can, domestically or abroad. They also likely track everyone's physical location as close to real time as possible.

Maybe that's how they actually caught Luigi. They caught him because they know everyone's physical location at all time. They just had to rewind the clock back a bit, see who was standing near Thompson at the moment of the shooting, and they instantly knew it was him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah “the list” is now likely an in depth dossier about every single thing you’ve ever posted, who your friends and family are, what your vices are, where you frequently travel to, etc.