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[–] [email protected] 345 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 172 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Seriously though. Fuck that guy.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Why, exactly? Genuinely asking. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm no Apple fan, and he was absolutely an insufferable douchebag to nearly everyone he knew; and was a verifiable self-righteous fuckwit who Darwin'd himself out of existence by choosing woo-woo bullshit over medicine for a very treatable cancer.

Evil, though, I think might be a stretch -- Elon, Thiel, Vance, Trump, Murdoch, the Sackler family, the Koch brothers, etc. all excellent contenders for being truly evil -- but afaik Jobs was just a dickhead with an ego the size of a blimp, and I think we ought not dilute that term with just your run-of-the-mill dickheads. Unless you know something I don't about him.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 weeks ago

To start with, Jobs lied and cheated Wozniak out of money. And this was Jobs friend, not some random.

If he is willing to do this to his friends, you know he did it to others.

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[–] [email protected] 187 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Their "repair" program is nothing but a scam to nudge you into buying a new Apple product to replace the broken one with overinflated repair prices and bullshit excuses like that.

Also it works exactly as Steve Jobs intended.

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[–] [email protected] 165 points 3 weeks ago

"Some of the parts were missing"

You motherfuckers put the damn thing together in the first place!

[–] [email protected] 128 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

This is almost exactly what happened to me except they told me my phone had mold growing inside it from the shattered screen I wanted replaced.

The “mold” was pocket lint from waiting a month to get it fixed.

Bitch actually said right to my face that my phone no longer works so let’s get you a new one. I powered on the phone right there and he started backpedaling and grifting ‘oh but it won’t be long tho’. So I went home and still use it with the shattered screen because fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

FYI, you can replace the screen yourself. I’ve replaced the screen and battery on an older iPhone. Bought the parts off Amazon, watched a YouTube video and that’s it. Super tiny screws so it may help if you have a magnifying glass (or one of those magnifying + light units for painting miniatures).

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

At least where I live, if the bootleg repair place isn't slightly moldy, it's a scam. Rundown, old white tiles on the wall, chipped mirror somewhere, a frail curtain to separate the back area from the front counter, and, in summer, a mandatory swiveling standing fan. That's where your phone will get a second lease on its live!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago

Never did a lot of specifically phone repair, but all the computer and misc electronics repair I've worked at follow a similar pattern to yours. To add to it - there should be cobbled together racks, behind the flimsy curtain, filled with devices of many vintages in many states of (dis)repair.

The cleaner the place and the steeper the price, a lotta times the better the proprietor is at business than at electronics, lol

[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Parts missing? I don't believe this at all. A phone is basically a single board, screen, battery, lenses, audio bits. Everything is so jammed in that there's no room to think parts are missing. No tech would make this mistake and Apple doesn't benefit from generating a hostile customer experience. This is made up.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Sorry details may be fake, but I do believe an apple employee would pull some shot because policy dictates they sell new equipment over fixing old equipment.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

I used to work for Apple. I don't believe the missing parts story because as you said, how would that even happen. But, if any parts have been replaced, especially the home buttons / finger print reader, they will refuse to fix, and I never understand why. So that may be what happened.

Also Jobs was 100% behind this stuff. It's so annoying when people treat him like he was some tech god. He was a twat.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Are you suggesting someone would lie? On the internet?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting someone would lie? At the Genius Bar?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

This is made up.

It's a green text lol.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 weeks ago

The missing part was a brand new iPhone or two.

[–] Jumuta 63 points 3 weeks ago (37 children)

what did Steve Jobs even do except for management and marketing, and why does he then get the praise for the hardware/software???

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Fake and gay. They will never say your device has parts missing since they know most customers aren't that stupid. They most of the time say you have water damage or it's too old for repair.

The Apple Genius Bar sucks ass. But let's not pretend like any of the other big tech companies do any better. At least Apple has a physical store where they can fuck you over in person. Try getting Samsung shit repaired. In most countries they let a 3rd party company do the handling and repairs and you can't visit that company. You have to send it in and if they deem your device unrepairable or "not" broken they send it back and you have to pay for shipping both ways even if the device falls under warranty and sometimes they send it back more broken then when it left your hands. While communication happens solely trough email.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I worked the Genius Bar for 3 years and only left a couple of years ago.

I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt, in the UK at least, that there is no lying going on. We don’t care about upselling you anything. If we can repair your phone or replace the battery we will.

The reason we decline for say water damage or unauthorised repair is because they want to guarantee the repairs with a warranty and that is hard to do when it has been water damaged or someone else has been in and maybe fucked something up.

Plenty of shit Apple do wrong but the service here is top notch compared to any other manufacturer.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Plenty of shit Apple do wrong but the service here is top notch compared to any other manufacturer.

I don't understand how this can ever be argued when apple's record against consumer's right to repair is like a dictator's record against their own people.

Is this a case of "Yeah, he killed millions of citizens, that's true. But he really developed infrastructure"?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can confirm for America too—I worked there also and saw the same. There are moisture indicators inside the device that the phone owner can’t see, and if those are triggered, then it could have done microscopic damage to the internal components. If Apple fixes it and it dies a week later from water damage, the customer will blame Apple, so they choose to replace the unit when they see the indicators have been triggered.

“Missing parts” is not a likely phrase they would have ever used.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There was a scandal years ago because the moisture indicators were found to be wildly over-sensitive, and changing colour in inappropriate situations, e.g. it being a bit humid because it was raining, being in someone's pocket when their clothes were a little too warm so they sweated, or having been brought into a bathroom within a couple of hours of someone showing. Some were already showing water damage immediately after leaving the Apple Store when journalists investigated.

If the Genius Bar staff are told the water damage indicators indicate water damage, then they don't have to lie to say they can't repair a phone. If some percentage of phones have indicators that simply don't work correctly, then people will have repairs rejected when they know their phone's never been near water, so it'll look like the staff are lying.

The situation must have improved because this was headline news years ago and I've not seen it mentioned since, but even if it's a fixed problem, it still gave Apple a reputation for refusing to do repairs for nonsensical reasons.

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[–] MightyCuriosity 46 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Real story: A friend of mine used his iPhone on his motorcycle and it messed up the OIS. He went to Apple, said they wouldn't fix it. He went to a third party and they told him they basically have to beg Apple to fix it and get parts so he'd have to leave his phone for a week to MAYBE get it fixed by the grace of the big fruit. He bought a new iPhone. I still don't understand why.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

Apple absolutely does NOT slow old phones when they send out new updates. Anymore.

/s

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[–] wheeldawg 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Jobs was an idiot. Chose homeopathic crap instead of medicine. I don't give him credit for anything if he's that dumb.

He's free to do that, sure, but anyone doing so is safe to be labeled "moron" by everyone else.

Unless I've heard a messed up version of events he will stay in the "idiots that were not beneficial to humans in any way" trash can.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

He had one of the few treatable forms of pancreatic cancer and skipped the only known treatment in favour of homeopathic.

If he had "normal" pancreatic cancer I'd maybe give him some slack. It's just not treatable. But what he had was probably survivable had he treated it immediately.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/steve-jobs-treatment-biographer-jobs-delayed-surgery-pancreatic/story?id=14781250

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

While I get and applaud the mission of the Fairphone, there are some serious compromises you have to make spec-wise to be on it.

Even in the greentext, dude paid $60, not bad for + ~3 years of life. Your run of the mill Android will probably be cheaper as significantly less "part serializing" bull happens on the android side

It's not worth the power-handicap they shove in that thing.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Power handicap" compared to what like a 2k phone? My almost 4.5 yo Pixel 4a is still doing fine in terms of specs. Only the battery is junk by now. I don't need a phone that is more powerful and more expensive than my freaking PC, I just want one that does not make replacing the battery a huge pain in my ass.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Apple a bad company? Really? I neeeeever eeeeever heard anything bad about aaaaaple.

No shit Sherlock, it'd obvious AF. It's one of the wealthiest companies in the world. They didn't get all that money with honesty. Child labor, slave labor, ripping off consumers, creating a whole new level of corporate greed. Apple is as evil as you can get. Just like Nvidia, Shell, Google, Nestlé, etc.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

When Apple can't exploit poor minorities with targeted ads, things will get better. Probably the most overvalued company out there rn. People don't realize how much Apple does to keep their pop culture status. It's getting harder an harder to maintain, but it will never truly go away.

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