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How are you going to get super talented engineers when you’re gutting everything good in America.
The goal is to lower US labor costs to below European ones and more akin to the typical 50k/year indentured servitude india H1B worker salary.
I don't understand how anyone thinks immigrants steal jobs. You can't just show up to a workplace and collect a paycheque, you have to get hired first.
Employers are giving jobs to immigrants. And they know it because they are the ones getting the visas.
Immigrants are in a more precarious position and are harder to get on board with unionisation efforts. The H1B visa specifically is designed specifically to undermine worker solidarity. If you're on a H1B visa and you get fired, your visa is cancelled and you go back home, to be replaced by someone else. There's similar incentives at play for undocumented migrants.
Any immigration that doesn't include a full green card is bad for all workers.
I thought AI meant we didn't need all these tech workers? /s
Musk is currently fighting with Laura Loomer over this and even pretended to be someone else in order to argue with her over Twitter Spaces and it is very, very funny to watch.
christ it should be a rule to never post links to sites that require accounts or logins when sharing information about a discussion without also providing screenshots or a non-account mirror.
Huh no way, the oligarch is going to make things worse for people in the country where he's an oligarch?
Shooketh
"Immigrants for me, and go... fuck... yourself."
- Elon basically
I'll believe any negative Elon news when it starts to actually hurt his pocketbook or well-being or life.
Until then I am apt to just consider it clickbait.
I dream of the day he's held accountable for something in a major way, but like my desire for that for Trump, I just have my doubts.
What is so incredible is that the education system in the US is so fucked that so so so so SO many high skill, high education jobs need to be brought in from overseas. Meanwhile Elon just wants to fuck over the education system in the US even more.
The reason why he wants to bring in foreign labor is, in all likelihood, to make his employees more easily controlled. Expats are less likely to raise a fuss about their living conditions and may not have much of a connection to the political movements around them to take part in protests. Also if those employees have their visa's dependent entirely on the whims of their employer, if they DO get uppity in any way, they can face almost immediate deportation upon being fired.
In short, he does not give a fuck about Americans. It is 100% about control and exploitation.
Yeah, when you import your slaves you can pay them less and they're more subservient because they don't want to be deported. It also drives down the wages for US citizens that perform the same jobs. News flash, there are plenty of good software engineers in America. They just aren't going to work 60 hours a week for 60k a year while the company they work for posts billions in profit each year.
If you need my skill and time to make a million dollars, I better be getting at least 15-20% of that profit. Employers can obviously afford to pay it if they can give a CEO that barely does shit 250 mil plus stock options
Software engineers can devise lots of interesting ways to depose. He’s gonna radicalize the smart people.
LOL - surely the billionaire is going to be concerned about the plight of the American worker!?
The same guy that bought, then gutted, Xitter? Demanded people send him CODE for him to REVIEW?
I have some bad news for self-styled "Libertarians" that are also engineers...
It's the immigrants taking your jerbs.....no wait not those.
That sweet, sweet H1B visa slavery
My job tried to strong arm a bunch of Indian engineers into going home with massive paycuts. They all found jobs in India paying more than what work was offering but let work pay their moving expenses back home before quitting. I'm super proud of those guys.
Glad to hear it. I've seen so many H1Bs yanked around by corps over the years, and for the most part, they get rolled.
Is there a shortage?
Or are you only looking at Bay Area hires because I see a great number of good and bad engineers in Midwest and eastern parts of the USA.
A shortage of engineers willing to work for Musk-led companies, maybe. Tesla is well-known in tech circles to have awful work culture. You can only survive with high turnover like that for so long before most American engineers know that there are much greener pastures.
Yes there is a shortage, a shortage of workers who are unable to say no without being threatened with deportation and compensated with far lower non-competitive wages.
The industry is flooded with American workers though
There is becoming more and more of a shortage of good engineers who want to work for companies associated with him I am sure. All they have to do is read about his business practices.
He believes in overworking, underpaying, and is anti-unions because he knows they would fight against the wages, policies, and work practices he wants to force against people.
Elon Musk is anti-workers. And thus, since workers are the fabric of this nation.... Elon Musk is anti-america.
CEOs man...
Rules for me not for thee does not work this way buddy.