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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Remember remember!

The 4th of December

A CEO dies all alone;

On the street he was lain,

cold, pale and in pain,

thousands of deaths that he own.

The decisions he'd struck,

Layers removed from the slaughter,

Were a shareholders treat,

Your dead mother or daughter.

Those investors all wait, on that cold winter morn,

Still unaware of profit potential they'd mourn,

Poking at hotel breakfast, bored looks on their face

As Brian's when he denied and delayed at great pace

Endless growth, deposed, on behalf of us all

Luigi didn't do it, we were hiking in Nepal.

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[–] [email protected] 214 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Whenever he gets cheers and applause in a news comedy show, the host always looks uncomfortable. You can almost see the leash of their corporate overlords being tugged.

[–] [email protected] 170 points 4 days ago (9 children)

I mean, it's not just that. it's legal liability. part of the reason they charged him with terrorism is to tie any show of support to a crime as well. supporting him is like supporting al-qaeda now. so I ask you, DO YOU CONDEMN HUMMUS? DO YOU CONDOM MORDOR OF CEOS?

[–] [email protected] 98 points 4 days ago (2 children)

All it did was show a lot of people what bullshit a charge of "terrorism" is.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yes, I do condom mordor of ceos

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It is perfectly legal to advocate for illegal activity. The first amendment has broad protections for this. SCOTUS has ruled on this even recently. You need to be able to advocate for illegal activity if you want people to have any chance to change the law.

It is perfectly legal to come right out on national television and say, "Luigi did nothing wrong. The president and governor should pardon him, and the mayor of NYC should throw him a parade."

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

lol... those who remember the 2000s know that's all out the window if the government says anything is terrorism.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

The right to free speech and the right to peaceably assemble hasn't been respected at any point during US history.

Not immediately after the country was formed when they signed the sedition act into law.

Not while people were protesting for abolitionism.

Not while people were protesting for women's suffrage.

Not while people held demonstrations while on strike.

Not during the cold war and red scare.

Not during the civil rights movement.

Not during the George Floyd protests.

They're not going to start now.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Also, lets not forget who will be president soon.. Trump and his fellows have hinted at going after fake news media before. Going after terrorism supporting fake news media is even easier.

[–] explodicle 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Also GOP: "We are all domestic terrorists"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

For those who have forgotten, this is an actual quote from the republican party.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's also just the purview of the liberal elite. So rich and far removed from society they think murdering someone makes you evil and there's never any reason to do it.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Meanwhile our media is absolutely jam packed with freedom fighters and underdogs and man against the system.. ultra gore.

So like idk what message the elites have been getting out of the media but the really popular stuff is always the stuff that speaks to the masses.. and feels relatable.

So sitcoms and… horror dystopia, yep.

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[–] [email protected] 140 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They don't see us as human and are just finding out the feeling is mutual.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Why would the 1% be nervous?

It's not like the Americans will actually do anything. At most there will be some light trolling, some graffiti and maybe a twitter hashtag. Tjen everyone will pat themselves on the back and feel slightly superior before returning to their slave jobs, without healthcare

[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are you familiar with the term Stochastic Terrorism? The upshot is that enough public support may encourage individuals to take action against high-profile targets.

Imagine, for a secone, that you're one of those 1%. According to the census, there are about 340 million people in the US. If just 50% of them hate you, that's 170 million. If 99.9% of them do nothing, that still leaves 170 thousand willing to act. Statistically, you'd have one potential killer every two thousand people. Sure, the actual figure might be much lower. Do you know for sure? How would you estimate that?

Let's run with that statistic for now. How many people do you interact with or pass by daily? Weekly? Monthly? How many of those potential 170k might intentionally seek you out? The more wealthy or prominent you are, the greater of a target you become, but it may also depend on personal wrongs, leaving a lot of uncertainty and hard to predict variables. How would you know whether there's a target on your back? Or multiple?

If you thought you were invincible, that deterrence by law enforcement and public distaste for violence would prevent any such events, that illusion has been shattered now. All it takes is one slip-up of security, one person with nothing to lose and the right luck.

Would you feel safe?

Until recently, we all thought nothing would happen. Now something has happened. I think at this point it's impossible to predict whether that will inspire copycats, whether the public approval may encourage more disruptice mass action or whether it will actually go back to complacency and stay an isolated incident. That unpredictability should give them pause.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Add to that if you suffered at their hands.

Add to that if you just, by chance, find an opportunity to fuck them up.

They will end up hiding in their gated communities of course.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I remember posts like yours from a while back... and then one day a young man with a bright future and as lot of advantage chose to leave that behind to shoot a CEO in the back of the head on the open street in broad daylight.

"Why would the 1% be nervous"

Your post is a weak attempt to sow defeat in the hearts and minds of those who started to perk up and think a bit more after seeing what Luigi decided needed to be done. On balance, your post reads like you're actually nervous.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I mean, the internet does nothing better than slacktivism.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Technically wasn't broad daylight, it was just before sunrise. But that doesn't really affect your point.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Wow, the CEOs really do wake up early and work hard /s

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

I'll be honest. I'm not sure. I grew up outside the US. Things were far worse but in some ways, less bad division wise. I was mostly a child or a teen but I did live thru two revolutions. Both regime changing.

It all starts rather complacent and lazy. But the bubbles. They are not feeling new to me.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 4 days ago (4 children)

He's only 26, which means the 2036 election suddenly gets more interesting.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 days ago (9 children)

That's assuming they don't make the death-penalty terrorism charge stick... which they will in a heartbeat.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Have you heard of this one neat trick (jury nullification) that lawyers hate?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I haven't heard about it at all. Not a once. I would never talk about it during a jury selection process either.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 days ago (16 children)

I'm not saying he'd get my vote, but I'm not not saying it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Eugene V. Debs will always be my favorite imprisoned candidate. Respectable vote count too, given their situation.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nah, put him on the Supreme Court and lend it some fucking legitimacy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I suppose what's another criminal on the Supreme Court? Maybe he can run his own murder trial and find no wrong doing.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Put him in charge of healthcare maybe, but electing libertarians to office is a big chunk of why you have this problem in the first place. Guy has only had one good idea.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Just pointing out if an insurance office shuts down for the day then no claims are getting approved.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (42 children)

Well my darling deario no claims are being approved, they're being rejected though.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

So basically you're saying nothing changes if they shut down.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When the Venn diagram of YA doomsday fiction and reality overlap more than you thought.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

I'm too old to know the four notes from the Hunger Games, so I substitute my own: 🎼 you β™© must β™© use β™© the β™© force β™©

Shit, that was five notes.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If they aren't doing anything immoral they have nothing to be nervous about.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

The problem is that the guy would be a third party candidate, which means he would get treated as a sinkhole for the voters of the opposite party. This would work specially well for the GQP since they could just have a candidate adopt his ideology, throw a lot of money into news, media, and rallies to trump up support, and then easily turn around and just not fulfill it when they win. Meanwhile, there will be plenty of people in the other side of the flawed bipartisan system who will just blame democrats for not choosing their third party candidate regardless of the actual consequences voting third party has in USA's democratic facade of a system.

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