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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/12228-Britain-America-disagree-who-did-more-beat-nazis

There are some hints in YouGov's poll that memories of the Cold War may be a factor. Americans aged 18-29 were the age group most likely to credit the USSR, though they still prefer the US by 36% to 16%. However Americans 65 and up, who would have mostly come of age during the heart of the US-Soviet rivalry, pick the US over the Soviet Union by 66% to 9%, a much wider margin.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I do love the folks putting troll answers in like Belgium though.

[–] JohnDClay 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Germany should be an option. Their ideology really made it impossible for them to be sustainable long term.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

I also heard that the guy who killed Hitler was the leader of Germany at the time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not necessarily. The war became a turning point for many of our established views today.

At the time anti-semitic views were common in the US, and Hitler didn't expect the UK to stand against him.

If the UK had stayed neutral, Germany might well have succeeded and anti-semitism may well have become normalised in western views.

[–] ghen 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Or maybe Spain, by staying out of the war and keeping Hitler on read they made it possible for the allies to actually gain enough power. Winning through pacifism.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

A huge majority of those who actually lived through WWII gave credit to the Soviets, who killed the most Nazis by far.

[–] JohnDClay 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Given that the survey is in English, I'm guessing mostly people from English speaking countries took it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Notably, that's not how the US army looks at it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who did the most? I'd say probably the USSR by numbers. The US was a huge driver of the war effort, and used a blend of hard and soft power to push. The UK and (Free) France were necessary resistance and emblematic of the other western efforts. The Battle of Britain can't be understated, they were a huge stopping block. ANZAC forces weren't as prevalent in WW2 as they were in WW1 - they weren't the leading force, but they were present and earned every ounce of respect. In theory, Japan could even be on here as a catalyst - even though they were allied to the Nazis and did many horrifying things, had it not been for Pearl Harbor, the US wouldn't have gotten involved.

But really I think it is either the USSR or the USA, with the UK a distant but necessary third.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool, now ask Russians if they could have done it without lend-lease

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Better yet, let's ask the US army if Russians could have done it without lend-lease.