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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 hours ago

That sounds extremely low. What young voters are they polling? The Amish?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

41% of people they asked! Who knows what criteria they used to get their sample set, so the number may even be higher.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 55 minutes ago

Also, do we know the specific wording? The wording of the questions around it? Those can have a significant impact on the answers.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 hours ago

Gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Many things people find despicable are common place in the fog of war. I will never agree with gunning down a poor person no matter what they did, justice is served for the poor daily on a cold lead plate. For the 1%??? Who can we call when insurance kills our loved ones? When Dr's make intentional mistakes and your loved one is dead? Can you call the police and expect them to go snorkeling to find evidence? Or can you maybe expect a call in a few weeks with a maybe update? We have seen how they respond when one of their masters is murdered. Until there is actual justice for all citizens, there will be no peace. Eat the rich.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

The poor can't even get justice wrenched from the poor, much less the rich.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago

Only 41%?

We still have work to do.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

A person has to ask themselves the question of does this person help or hurt humanity, and if you look at this company denials since he took over he definetely hurts humanity as a whole.

Not every human life is valuable or worth keeping. We need to treat our weakest members of society better, which is elderly, disabled and children. He hurts those people the most, when he should've trying to protect them. He chose to chase profits over human life.

This is simply a logical consequence. Income equality now is FAR worse than the french revolution, I'm just suprised it took this long.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

Every life is valuable and sacred. Every death a tragedy. But I will not cry when tragedy comes for those who grow rich by permitting tragedy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

some murderous douche bag asked that same question of a brave doctor doing late term abortions and had the same conclusion as you.

But then again I'm also against the death penalty, so, maybe different strokes different folks.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 hours ago

Pretty shocking it’s that low honestly.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 hours ago

That low? That is a shock.

[–] RedC 4 points 5 hours ago

59% are trust fund kids

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand what's shocking about that?

I would have called that predictable.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago

It seems pretty low

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Young, like under 26? Like never having had to supply their own health insurance maybe?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

Exactly this. I suspect this group is both young enough to not have to supply their own insurance, or at least young enough to not have faced significant health costs yet. Many people have not yet experienced just how trash the US healthcare system is.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Shock poll? Who is shocked?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 hours ago

I'm shocked that the number isn't higher, does that count?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 13 hours ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I think of it this way. 41% are willing to say the killing was justified to a perfect stranger.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Guessing here, but an absolutely a MINIMUM of an additional 20% find it secretly acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago

After the shooting, hundreds [if not thousands] of doctors and nurses were posting stories about how insurance companies had literally killed people by withholding treatments.

If you live your life in a way that makes a lot of people want to kill you, you can't be surprised when you get shot.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago

Seems low. Like if they polled exclusively young conservatives or something.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

A further 19% were neutral.

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[–] otp 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think I'd be considered "young" anymore, but I don't know if I'd say I support it.

Is the world better off without him? Yes.

Did he deserve to die? Yeah, probably.

Do I want to support vigilantism? Probably not.

Would it have been better if he had to deal with some terrible incurable and deadly disease? Yeah, if karma was real.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 12 hours ago

I'm almost 40. And I support it.

All other avenues are closed. All the proper and acceptable forms of redress are either coopted or outright captured. Civil, political, or otherwise. Peaceful Protest is universally ignored because it lacks the implicit threat of violence that makes it effective elsewhere in the world.

“When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich.” ~ Jean Jacques Rousseau

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

I feel the same way about Brian as I do about trump. Not sad or angry that they got shot, but I'm upset that someone shot at them. In a better world, we would be empowered enough that the answer to these moneygrubbing grift barons would come before violence, unfortunately, when you only react to violence, violence becomes the only answer.

For my FBI agent... I do not have plans to harm anyone, and this comment is an observation of the current political, social, and equality situation in the US, and not an advocation of violence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

Same, this number seems way too low. Even from my skewed perspective of a "old guy" - fastly nearing 40.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 12 hours ago

110% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Just 41%?

The pain felt in the US is still not high enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

You better believe they skewed this poll to get the result they wanted

I'm willing to bet that most people are indifferent, end of the remainder the vast majority are in support of the killing

[–] [email protected] 39 points 13 hours ago (7 children)

Many of these polls are written in way to ellicit a biased response.

Others have already covered how this works, but I'll add to it anyway.

If you ask a question like "do you condemn violence against healthcare CEOs?" A lot of people are going to say yes, because they view themselves as people against violence and respond mostly to that first part.

If you ask "did brian thompson deserve to die for his crimes? Many of the same people will say yes to that too, because people have an innate desire for justice.

Polls do this all the time. It's part of social engineering and plays on the phenomenon that the Asch Conformity Experiments analyzed. Around 35% of people will change their opinions to fit everyone else's even if the answer or opinion is very obviously incorrect.

Don't let them take the narrative back.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago

"Do you think your house is too small", vs "would you like a bigger house" .. >> x% of people happy with size of their house

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[–] wheeldawg 0 points 4 hours ago

Any CEO (actually, any rich person- the ticket the more this applies) that doesn't donate obscene amounts to good (good as in "would probably be hated by MAGA" or "politically neutral") charities can be "acceptably put down".

Even more so if they are actively causing direct harm to their customers/clients.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

That is shocking. Get your shit together, 59%!

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 19 hours ago (6 children)
[–] the_post_of_tom_joad 55 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

There's a teensy bit of data massaging to make the approval rating appear lower... in my opinion of course.

The respondents were asked to rank "acceptability of the killers actions" on a scale of 1 to 5.

Assumin'the average "young voter" views gunning strangers down as:

[1.very unfavorable]

(You would, if asked about murder, say it was bad As a rule. right? I would too. Ya know, unless it was justified.)

Looking at it that way, the same data looks a lot different suddenly.

33% young voters still think the killer is completely unjustified.

7% think there was some justification

19% are undecided if the CEO deserved to die for what he did

24% think the killer was mostly justified... But have reservations

17% believe he was 100% in the right

I got a little free with the interpretations but you get the idea, You could decide to frame the data this way too. there's a saying: statistics don't lie but statisticians do. Here's my 100% true alternate title using the data but presented with the story I want to tell:

67% of Young Voters at Least Partly Approve of Killers Actions

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