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Summary

Sen. John Fetterman faced backlash from progressives after his first post on Truth Social calling the hush-money case against Trump "bullshit" and suggested pardons for both Trump and Hunter Biden.

Fetterman reiterated his stance from recent interviews, arguing such cases erode public trust in institutions.

The response has been divisive, with Trump supporters and progressives both criticizing him.

Fetterman’s broader shifts, including support for Israel and mocking climate activists, have alienated some Democratic supporters while gaining him favor among conservatives.

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[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What the fuck happened to him? He seemed so promising just a few years ago.

[–] [email protected] 157 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He was always like this, he just became more abrasive after the stroke.

We just closed our eyes and looked the other way when he showed himself to be a rabid zionist and assumed he'd grown from when he chased a black man through neighborhood with a shotgun.

You see him go against AIPAC-backed corpo dems in the primary and interpreted some labor rhetoric and putting a hammer and sickle in his profile pic and it's easy to mislead yourself.

It's what happens when you don't do the critical part of critical support.

This is different from Sinoma who simply lied about all of her positions.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago

I think this is the most charitable interpretation.

[–] xmunk 15 points 1 month ago

He was never particularly liberal... he just had enough money to throw around in grand acts that people assumed he was generous and cared about regular people.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Never trust someone from York county.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 month ago

I can forgive virtually everything else he's said... But suggesting Biden grant a pardon to a man who has shown no remorse or even an admission that his alleged crimes might be wrong is so far off the path of wisdom that i dont think its even fair to count his seat "blue".

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago

Really, you could cut the headline to "Fetterman made his first post on truth social", and I'd still be disappointed, the rest just put a cherry on top.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What a fucking disappointment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Don't know why people were disappointed, this is who he's always been

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Goddamn, either this guy was one hell of a fraud, or brain damage does really cause conservatism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I really do wonder if the second part is a possibility.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

so he understands that trump is guilty, of treason, and he wants him off the hook.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Post summary says he's calling for a pardon on the campaign finance fraud case (the porn star hush money). So assuming that's an accurate summary he's not calling for a pardon on treason. Also it's a state crime so it's not one the president can pardon anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

ohhh I didnt read to clarify as I figured it was the only federal charges that were outstanding. Thank you for putting me straight on this issue. So its just as it always is, theater.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Things looked like we might finally see justice, but after this victory, I think he got away free. Pardon or not.

I think those advocating on pardoning him now think that this would remove his incentive to turn DOJ into his personal agency, but he likely will do that anyway no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I hate to tell you but this isn't ending then or anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I can't believe I shook this guy's hand at a campaign rally once. Fuck you and your hoodie, Fetterman.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Should throw your shoe at him next time.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fettermen Sinema Manchin

Three bullet points on a list

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Don’t forget democrat joe Lieberman who single-handedly killed the single payer option when obamacare was being voted on. The bought and paid for insurance industry shill joe Lieberman. It’s a shame he’s dead, he deserves the Luigi treatment.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

Maybe the public is right to distrust institutions.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Congrats to Fetterman on being the New Joe Manchin. He'll never have to make another fundraising call again-- must feel good.

I imagine he has a bright future as the Dem or republican frontrunner in a future presidential election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fetterman can't go Joe Manchin even if he wanted to. His party affiliation wouldn't single-handedly swing contol of the Senate like Manchin. He's not in a position where he can all but single-handedly decide if Democrat bills survive or fail. He has no political leverage. The Democrats aren't going to throw money to save him because doing so would not impact their ability to control the Senate or conduct business.

If Fetterman tries to go full Manchin, he had better hope the GOP are willing to prop him up, because Dems are just going to cut their losses and focus their money on more winnable races.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

because Dems are just going to cut their losses and focus their money on more winnable races

Fettermans got AIPAC backing. He's in a heavily jewish district, which is why he talks so much about Israel. Dems wouldnt DARE to cut their losses with Fetterman, he's a made man.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (20 children)

Please don’t equate Judaism with support for Israel. Some of the most anti Israel people are Jews. Fuck the zionists.

  • a Jew
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

edit: I stand by the below text only if the user hadn’t gone on to spout blatant dogwhistles and misinformation. The above comment is fine, but all the conversation below is demonstrably false and if the mod team of this community had any integrity this would receive a penalty.

~~I don’t think kreskin was equating the two. At worst, that comment expresses the political force that Fetterman is leveraging by messaging toward a group that is primed to be (unfortunately) significantly Zionist due to Israeli/Zionist propaganda.~~

~~In other words, Israel is the primary actor conflating Judaism and Zionism (as I’m sure we both know). kreskin is saying that Fetterman is aware of the prevalence of that lie (whether he thinks it to be a lie or not) in the Jewish American population of his district, and is exploiting it for political footing. That doesn’t mean that kraeskin thinks that lie is true, only that they are aware that it is prevalent.~~

~~I skimmed your argument below and I don’t see much of anything that contradicts my more charitable reading of the above, though I am welcome to examples.~~

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

The dudes comments are all Nazi dog whistles. Saying Zionism started with the Romans and that the Jews “genocided” them (lolololol Romans were colonizers) is quite the elders of Zion kind of bullshit that’s fascist pretending to be “just asking questions” and “history nerd”. Then he acts like it’s a gotcha that my dates off the top of my head are 10 years off as opposed to a fucking millennium or more.

Israel is the primary actor trying to conflate being Zionist with being Jewish. As a result we have anti semitic assholes like the dude I was responding to pretending that their anti semitism is actually anti Zionism. Israel’s actions make the world more dangerous for Jews worldwide intentionally to get the diaspora to make Aaliyah and join the IDF and make Jewish babies for the IDF and the settler movement. Despite a solid third of us being strongly anti Zionist and pro Palestinian according to this waste of oxygen it’s safe to assume all Jews support Israel’s bullshit.

And then typical .world mod bullshit. Leave the Nazi comments up, moderate mine into silence. Typical liberals. Oh no I used bad bad words!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

this is sadly one of the jordanlund communities. this isn’t a politics community so much as a place for that mod team to screw around—there isn’t even a full “misinformation” rule, it’s all lumped under “no memes trolling or low effort.”

this is a massive community that is understaffed—id guess mods look at each report for all of 3 seconds and only act on the obvious violations. it shouldn’t be this way, but you kind of have to operate within the rules if you want to have any positive effect. that user who is doing dogwhistles knows this, and took advantage of your low hanging fruit of uncivil language to get a free pass to stay under the radar.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

He won’t deny that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Did that stroke cause a personality change? Seems like he is suffering from magabrain.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There will always be just enough Democrats like him to fuck us over. Every time, without exception.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I wonder what happens to a party without core values that can't be trusted?

burn baby burn

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s almost like it’s INTENTIONAL or something!

Shit. You’re gonna piss off the libs by pointing this out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Libs will be pissed no matter what these days. Either the Dems are controlled opposition or they're very good at looking like controlled opposition.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Man this world is weird.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Okay I know what happened, he historically died, but a time traveler took over over his conciousness right before his death and now controls his body. John Fetterman is dead, this is just some time traveler fucking around with the past.

/s Shout outs to Travelers, go watch it its great.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I mean...it's not a crazy theory. dumber things have literally happened in the past 10 years.

[–] Texas_Hangover 15 points 1 month ago

This dude was pretty wacky from the get go. It was funny watching people flock to him like dumbasses to a flame.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Oh my god, I hate that I've voted for this dude multiple times.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

2028, the year we will be finally rid of both of these dingbats from politics (hopefully)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Been a fraud since his pro zionist stance

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Just elect local progressives to form the future of the democratic party! Maybe next election season you'll get one!"

At some point Charlie Brown stopped trying to kick the football, we should too. Better than Dr. Oz, but so was any random person in Pennsylvania.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

But but but if we just vote harder for progressives we’ll get all the things democrats promise we just need more democrats elected!

Democrats get elected and then proceed to 180

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

This is a man representing a purple state seeing not only his state but the entire country shift pretty solidly to the right and is just hedging his bets accordingly. And a sad but true fact is that if you want to have a political career, you bend the knee to Trump. You make the pilgrimage to Maralago, you buy his overpriced watches, you stay in his hotel rooms, you cater to his base on his platform. Whatever way you choose, the main goal is just to curry favor with Trump. And Fetterman has decided that bending the knee to Trump is the best move for his political career. Given the hard shift to the right the country is taking, he may not be wrong.

And before anybody hops on me, I'm not saying I agree with the man or am trying to excuse his behavior or anything like that. I'm just saying that strictly from the perspective of what is most likely to get him re-elected in Pennsylvania or advance his political career, bending the knee to Trump may be what he feels is the best way forward.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Opps all conservatives!

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