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[–] BackBreaker909 14 points 2 days ago

Everyone knows violence isn't the answer....its the question. And the answer is yes!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pacifism is only good for aggressors and cowards

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Non-violence != Pacifism

A person can be an advocate for non-violence and not be a pacifist. No need to conflate the two, particularly when people have so much hate and vitriol for any perceived pacifism.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

It’s a double edged sword, because people who you don’t agree with will resort to violence as well. Like the Taliban.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (34 children)

There's a lot of evidence that says that non-violent resistance is more often effective, and when it is effective it's more effective, than violent-based resistance.

Can't grab the source info link at the moment, but this video talks about it.

https://youtu.be/5Dk3hUNOMVk

Edit:

https://cup.columbia.edu/book/why-civil-resistance-works/9780231156820

https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/about/civil-resistance/

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A few questions for the study:

What's the data source? If they're just doing news reports and traditional history that can hide a lot of failed non-violent protests. A non violent protest, especially one against the medias interests, is way less likely to show up in the historical record then a violent insurrection. Only the successful movements like the civil rights movement will get mentioned on the non-violent side whereas every insurrection or riot, successful or not, is captured in the historical record.
What's the breakdown by method? It seems they're including strikes in this which has a very high success rate and high occurrence, so much so it could drown out all the failed protests.