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I hate how “anti-war” has been hijacked by these people to mean, let imperialist countries invade whoever they want with no consequences. (in the case of tankies, any imperialist country that isn’t in NATO).

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I don’t understand how other communists can defend Russia at this point. It feels to me like most of them forget that Russia is no longer a communist country.

They’re capitalists. Putin is often using christo-fascist tactics. He’s also pushing for Russian imperialism in very capitalistic ways. Also, Russia was 100 percent the agitators here.

Just because it challenges US worldwide hegemony doesn’t automatically make it good, boys.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Tankies might as well be called CINOs — communists in name only. Their defining feature is reverence towards authoritarian leaders. They revere Putin and Xi as “strong” leaders and completely ignore how little their regimes have in common with the socialist workers paradise Marx envisioned.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (16 children)

My favorite is when they argue that China has billionaires and private property and a stock market because Marx said you have to go through capitalism to get to communism. Which... doesn't somehow also apply to the West?

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's like their version of STOP RESISTING.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

My Mom said Russia had to attack Ukraine, because they were trying to join NATO. I asked why she thinks Ukraine was trying to join NATO. I'm still digging for a bedrock of logic.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I don't even know what they (western tankies) get from this. Average dumbass Russian only cares about his ass, and the pretended "glory". There is no "Conservative brotherhood which spans across the ocean". They don't speak your language, they don't have the same problem, and they hate YOU with passion, because on average, they are racist and dumb.

So my only hypothesis is that tankies think (??) that by going "contrarian" they show how smart they are, and that "did the research" lol.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (15 children)

No, it's because "America bad". There's a lot of reasons to hate America, and the drip feeding of munitions to Ukraine is one of them. I think we should have been sending everything from the start with the only restriction being no hitting civilian targets. A million 155 shells a week. Tomahawks. Predator drones. Hell, even F-15s. I agree, end the war, but end it in a Ukrainian victory with their borders restored.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's even worse than that. It's "America bad, therefore Russia good." As if there has to be some sort of cosmic balance.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Tankies entire world view is formed around hating the US.

They will glorify terrible regimes that literally commit genocides and straight up murder thousands of innocents just because that regime is in opposition to US influence.

They use left wing language, but they do not care about leftist issues. They do not care about disabled people getting focibly euthanised, about anyone who dares critique the regime being forcibly silenced, about minorities being genocided (unless the US or NATO does it), that their “socialist states” literally have billionaires while others starve. They think it’s all US propaganda. (Alternatively, they’ll admit part of it and say it’s for the greater good).

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 3 days ago (5 children)

If Russia stops fighting there would be no war. If Ukraine stops fighting there would be no Ukraine.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Wait, why are tankies siding with magas? I’ve been intentionally away for a minute, what did I miss?

Did something major happen in the last three days? Or is this the usual redirection of hate after we’ve found something to rally around?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Fash and red fash are basically the same thing loyal to different empires.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Remember that the original Canadian intent of the UN Peacekeepers was that they would forcibly create and enforce peace.

It was the USSR and the USA that objected to the concept.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (12 children)

I'm really curious how or why it works. Do they hate US so much that anyone against the US seems a hero to them, despite being off the same kind but pretending to be a communist/socialist?

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