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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Only 10HP? It's not likely to live very long with such a low amount of hit points.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

It makes up for it with enough mana to keep a shield spell up indefinitely.

If you're still worried, though, you can pair it with a Volvo for tanking and a Fiat 500 for nimble single target dps and flanking.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A Fiat 500? Glass cannon much?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Rogues often are 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

The other AC

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Looks like if you ever hit a pebble on the road it would probably flip and kill you. Note also the conspicuous absence of a seat belt. Cute little death machine.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Did anything have a seatbelt in 1944?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Volvo filed a patent for some sort of seatbelt in 1889. SAAB became the first car company to make any sort of seatbelt standard in 1958. Volvo became the first car company to install modern 3 point belts as standard equipment in 1959.

So yes, but actually probably not.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So a patent existed prior, but that doesn't mean they were made. SAAB made them standard 14 years after this car. Do with no other data, I'd say no and no.

Edit: just realized that reads like I'm being pissy, but that wasn't the tone my finger was swiping with. Thanks for the data!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well the key word there is standard. I'm guessing that seatbelts were optional equipment prior to that, because I have seen a '50 SAAB 92 that had a driver's side lap belt, which I believe was original equipment. I have also seen a '45 Chevy truck that also had a lap belt, but I'm unsure if that was original equipment.

That's why I said yes, but probably not.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

I like it. Why live with potentially life changing injuries, when you can simply have your neck broken by your seatbelt instead.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

NO SHOT. That's a joke, right?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Unsurprisingly it was not a successful prototype.

Still, better to have an instantaneous snapped neck/ decapitated than to be speared through the chest by the steering column.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, that was before Ralph Nader made a whole ruckus about car safety (and rightly so). Still, we're looking at this from the year 2024 so you can really tell this vehicle doesn't make sense in our time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I sometimes think about Ralph Nader, and the overall balance sheet of lives he is directly responsible for saving, vs lives that he is (I guess indirectly) responsible for ruining and/or ending due to spoiling the 2000 election.

Interesting thought experiment. I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It's almost a motorcycle. Something like this would be great for commuting, if not for all the Compensator™ Trucks and SUVs on the road.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That last picture doesn't look too bad

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

^^^

Even comes with a napping package

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

The long sleep in the great blue beyond

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's easy to make a 100mpg car. All you need is to make it small, flimsy, no aircon, no heater, no stereo, no airbags, toss emissions standards out, pack you in like a snake going up a bear's anus, and drive around at a steady 25 mph without any stops.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Idk, Dutch micro cars are pretty comfortable. They're quieter, safer for pedestrians, and environmentally friendly. Had a chance to use one last time I was in the Netherlands. The American mindset of "it has to be a giga-truck or it's bad" really sucks.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (19 children)

I'm in love with the Citroen Ami

I mean just look at this little guy. If I had ovaries, they'd be popping right now.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, that's pretty much what I mean. I'm having trouble finding references to the gas milage of the Canta, but Kei cars tend to max out around 60mpg, and the Canta is only a bit smaller. I also found plenty of posts from locals saying it's loud, uncomfortable, and unsafe.

The Peel P50 can get close to 100mpg, but that's pushing what a person can even fit in. This sort of thing is pushing into "why not get a moped?" territory.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The original Honda Insight from 2001 got 68 highway, 60 city. And it had all the goodies you'd want in a "modern" car like airbags, aircon, heat, 2 relatively roomy seats, etc. Close to the Doodlebug's best possible mpg with twice the passengers.

Unfortunately, after 20 years of improvement in auto design, material science, etc, the new Honda Insight in 2022 actually has notably worse city /highway mpg from the original, because it's so much bigger.

I guess my point is all the innovation in the world won't fix the fundamental problem that people want bigger and bigger cars?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Auto manufacturers want bigger and bigger vehicles, and they've done an excellent job of convincing the masses that they aren't safe without one, or a man, or they'll look poor. Most people I'd wager if given the proper knowledge and experience wouldn't want to drive a huge lumbering land whale, they've just been told their entire life that they do.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I'd want to do 45 in that thing, hell of a way to go if you got speed wobbles. I could see a use for kei vehicles in downtown areas. Traffic is so bad that a car's top speed might be 30 if you are lucky. Mass transit, bikes and tiny vehicles are what most people could easily get away with day to day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Oddly enough my state made UTV’s(side by sides) street legal and that opened up the legality of kei trucks and the such being street legal here. One of my coworkers has something like this.

Not entirely sure how long that’s going to last. They’ve already threatened removing that law because people are abusing the hell out of it. They had to do an education campaign because people just thought you could take them on the road. They need to be licensed, registered and insured to the same standards as a car…aka at least liability to state minimums.

They can’t go on any road over 45mph(even though a lot of the nicer ones can go much faster). It was kind of comical to see the number of roads that went from 45 to 50 because of this.

Red light? I’m in an off-road UTV! Hop this curb, go over the side walk and make my right turn! Not to mention the jack assess that have their 50” 40,000 lumen light bars on the roof blasting at ALL TIMES.

That and one city had $350K of damage done to a park because somebody thought doing doughnuts in the fields was a good idea. Much harder to do if you have to trailer it there first.

I’m mostly in favor of it but the people outright breaking the law need to be dealt with. There are some safety concerns I have with it as well. Those vehicles are not safety tested. Even a small sedan would make an absolute mess of them in most accidents. That’s fine if you are making that decision consciously. The amount of people that load up their entire family and kids in these things is alarming though. Sometimes kids that would need a car seat in a car but it’s a UTV!

Well that comment got a lot longer than I was planning. I’d love a kei car for around town though. I’m aware of the risks…it’s not worse than my motorcycle.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

That thing looks like it falls over on its side if you look at it funny.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

So a motor scooter with a car-like wrapper.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

One wheel in front?

It's a TRICYCLE!

[–] captain_aggravated 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My 2007 Ninja 250 made about 35 horsepower, could achieve a top speed over 100 mph and could also travel nearly 70 miles on a gallon of gas.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Looks like a giant tape dispenser.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Cool, now make it HPV or EV.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

HPV

It's been vaccinated.

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