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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I still don't understand why this isn't a 2.5G WAN and 2.5G LAN. Is it assuming that people are going to be using it as a router on a stick with a 1G WAN?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

most likely because this device is mainly for wifi use, and/or limitation of the SoC.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

You want your $90 wi-fi router to do what now?

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not sold.

Only two Ethernet ports. No SFP. Only available on AliExpress. Dishonestly marketed as the "first router designed specifically for OpenWRT".

Perhaps they are the first to make a router for OpenWRT the FOSS project, but certainly not the first to make one specifically for compatibility with the OpenWRT the Linux-based OS.

CZ.NIC (Czech Republic) makes several fully open-source routers under the "Turris" brand that run their own open-source variant of OpenWRT called "Turris OS". It's basically just an Open-WRT based distro with a custom frontend + root ssh and LuCI, and you can go vanilla if you want to.

GL.iNet (China) makes dozens of routers all designed for OpenWRT. They come standard with a custom install that includes a custom frontend and a handful of integrations, but you've gotta root ssh and LuCI, and you can go vanilla.

There are probably more out there. I think GlobalScale makes a few also, once on Kickstarter.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

This is link to CZ.NIC's Turris offerings.

They ship to "many countries" besides Czech republic, according to their page.

The router itself is quite expensive at around 400 euros for the wifi model.

In case it is not obvious, they are primarily Czech domain registrar.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Just pulled the trigger, only had European plugs in stock. I've got adapters so np. I'm getting it to replace my Raspberry Pi router that I've been using for a few years.

*Edit, I should say I'm a huge fan openWRT despite the fact that 15 years ago I managed to brick my linksys router so bad it actually caused sparks to shoot out the ethernet jacks. I flashed the wrong model firmware.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's amazing, for software to be able to cause that!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Power over Ethernet is a helluva drug

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

And also highly unlikely in the way described lol

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Of course, I just bought a new router, your all welcome

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for your sacrifice.

Which router did you go for, by the way?

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm glad it's open hardware as much as open software, but I think I'll wait to see what the OpenWrt Two looks like.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

This is cool

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The next router I’m getting!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (10 children)

So, how is this any better than the Router Mini PCs you can find in Aliexpress (random example)?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Most of those run OpenWrt or PfSense. Assuming the hardware is well-supported by the open source software it runs, there's a argument to be made that there's no difference. There's always the risk of them using some weird chipset that won't be supported in a year's time. The only difference is that the OpenWrt One is specifically designed for OpenWrt with well-supported hardware.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There are use cases for this router, but please don't get the plastic clone sold by the same Chinese company that assembles the real thing. (The plastic clone costs a third, but doesn't have detachable antennas and doesn't accept mainstream OpenWRT because it uses an almost unknown CPU.)

Myself, when I need a high capability router (for me "capability" typically means "range") I turn towards a Raspberry Pi and Alfa AWUS1900 wireless card. Yes, it lacks in throughput (USB is a severe bottleneck)... but with a bit of tweaking, you can talk out to 2 kilometers if terrain allows. :)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (5 children)

If only it were a useful hardware configuration.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

GTFO, clicking on "buy now" two times results in some shop which has "aliexpress" as the official partner.

This can't be a product from the sources mentioned, can it?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

It says its a BananaPi product, and BananaPi uses aliexpress as a distributor according to https://www.banana-pi.org/web/index.php?topclassid=155&classid=155&lanstr=en&wap=1

checks out afaik

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

What's the point of having 1G on WAN and 2.5G on LAN? Traffic won't hit the LAN port until it's routed to the Internet, yet the WAN port is the bottleneck.

Edit: Seems like I switch up the port speed but my point still holds as the bittleneck still exist.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

The LAN and WAN ports aren't labelled as such on the device and can be configured to do anything. The 2.5Gb port can also be used to take in PoE so for a lot of people - myself included - this will be the only port that's actually used, or at least the port that will be used the heaviest. The reason, I think, that it's configured as WAN by default is so that the LAN port can be used to plug a laptop in directly without disconnecting the whole network.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

This person knows openwrt haha.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Tranfering between devices on the LAN.

Edit: Wait, no, it's the other way around. 2.5 on WAN, and just a single 1GB LAN port. That absolutely doesn't make sense.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

This is a common setup for WiFi routers, where the idea is that most traffic will be on WiFi.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Local NAS, local security cameras, in-house streaming, LAN multiplayer, local torrent-like data sharing (FYI, Windows Update and more uses the local network to share update between computers by default, so it gets downloaded once and then shared internally)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It's default 2.5G WAN and 1G LAN. It also has wifi to use some of that bandwidth.

https://openwrt.org/toh/openwrt/one

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Mmh only two Ethernet ports? I guess it’s for people who use mostly wifi only?

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's just the router, I guess. Provide your own switch for more ports.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Exactly this. With VLAN tagging you can plug that single 2.5Gb connection into a 48-port managed switch and effectively have up to 47 different NICs if that's what floats your boat. They'd all share the 2.5Gb but that's still more than a lot of small networks need.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s a router, not a switch.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Well the router I use today has 4 ports (and a built in modem for that matter, but I don’t use that).
I understand I can use a switch, but that means I’ll have to buy a switch in addition to this to replace my router.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which is not a bad thing, it’s more unix if you will. Router is a router, switch is a switch.

You provide your own switch and you choose the features: port count, port speed, vlan, etc — or get a 10€ switch if you don’t care. When a port breaks you replace the switch alone.

Multifunction tools are generally a tradeoff where you buy immediate convenience and pay with more ewaste and more money in the long run.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I also wanted to chime in with the perennial point that while this device is a pure expression of the OpenWrt project, they also support hundreds of other devices including, amazingly, a number of large switches, so if you wanted to ditch the separate route appliance altogether you could get all the features with only switch hardware.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The audience of this router most likely already has a standalone switch within their network.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

The price is right for sure, but it's still sad they didn't shoot for wifi 7. It was a pretty big leap in latency reduction.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It would be nice if they would make one with 4 or more LAN ports with at least one of them 2.5G and no WiFi. I need multiple access points to get enough coverage. The built in WiFi is useless to me since it won't integrate nicely with Unifi.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

You can hook it to a switch and a Wireless AP.. Now your networking is modular.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I love the specs and the pricing. Will definitely check it out.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago
[–] index 7 points 2 months ago

Is it available only though aliexpress?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I need this router.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I need this but 4G version..

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