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Why does the "party of small government" think marriage and divorce are any part of the government's business in the first place?
Oh. Right.
They also think this secular nation was founded as a xtian one and that it's the role of government to inflict their version of xtianity on everyone in the country, regardless of their personal beliefs and their right to freedom FROM religion.
If the government's not small how will it fit in someone's uterus?
The government is only “too big” when the rules and regulations are there to protect the marginalized, under represented and vulnerable.
A lot of people are gonna find out why their Nana had 3 husbands...
Most of whom were accident prone.
Maybe it’s just my sense of self preservation but I’d never try to keep someone against their will sleeping in my bed and cooking my food…
You mean the guy who violently raped his wife because she suggested a doctor for a hair transplant and it went bad so Trump blamed her? That she then used as part of her reason for divorcing him, and he never forgave her for that? Oh and then she mysteriously died while he was President and unceremoniously buried on his golf course?
It's a shock to me that you would put together that this guy wants to control women. /s
Yes, whatever bad things you can imagine, they're aiming for.
can you link a source to what you are referencing?
We wouldn't have nearly as much of a problem if it was just one guy.
And he probably wants to bang his own daughter.
That "probably" has sailed a very long time ago
He's straight up said he would
The funny (sad?) thing about this is the people pushing it think that this is going to force women to stay with fine upstanding Christian men when the women are no longer happy in the marriage.
They fail to see that no-fault divorce benefits men, too. Plenty of men are in relationships with women who are incompatible with them and generally suck the joy out of their life. No-fault divorce benefits ALL genders, not just the one that the conservatives consider to be "weak." Ask me how I know...
They also benefit those men because they get to live. You take away no fault divorce and a lot of men in those red states are going to experience tragic misadventures.
Oh, men will still be able to divorce women, they'll make sure of that.
All I can think of is like every other country song from 1940-1970, where it's about a woman killing her husband, or escaping her husband, or how her husband died mysteriously.
No fault divorce helps those who aren’t the one at fault for an unhappy marriage. And honestly it helps those sufficiently at fault too by keeping them alive. It’s really only the people who are unpleasant to be around and would be less happy alone than in a marriage where they’re the reason their spouse is unhappy that benefit.
Like seriously I have a friend whose husband decided to leave her for a midlife crisis (she didn’t say that but she described it) and while she’s financially fucked if she doesn’t get alimony, once her finances are resolved she’s going to be better off assuming she can get health insurance. She’s actually a bit excited to be single because the marriage isn’t happy anymore.
If you want a divorce, now you have to have fault (sex). This is the people pushing this only chance to have it (men and women).
They fail to see that no-fault divorce benefits men, too. Plenty of men are in relationships with women who are incompatible with them and generally suck the joy out of their life.
Yes, very true. The key here, I think, is that the qons that support this feel that men will be given special privileges to nullify a divorce, while women will not. They may be correct in that view when it comes to typical implementation of the law...
Also, the dumbass young men that support this and don't like women having autonomy also may be overlooking the downside that you point out, because they lack experience with relationships. Relationships are very difficult things to maintain, but if you are getting your notion of how relationships do/should work from pickup artists, or people that compare humans to lobsters, you are going to have almost no clue about that...
I don’t even think it’s that. I think they think women leave men for no good reason and good men are usually happy in marriages. Probably they also think that being stuck in a marriage will make people work on it more.
As someone happily married all that’s bullshit. Marriage is hard work and the fact that my wife can and will leave me if she decides she’s less happy with me in her life than without inspires me to always put in that work and to keep improving. And the same goes in the other direction. Our love inspires and pushes us to be worth each other’s time, energy, and life.
A lot of right wing men need to grow the fuck up
If your partner is only staying with you for legal reasons, what's the point? (I'm a rational man that doesn't see feminist policies as a threat.) Like sad conservative men would rather chain a unhappy woman too themselves rather than being a good partner. Modern women have changed. Gone are the days they'll just sit and take it (on a macro scale, of course they'll be tens of thousands of women trapped in a abusive relationship.)
All this will do is cause the marriage and birth rates to hit rock bottom as women won't take the risk of getting married. Also the homicide rate would skyrocket. Sad loser men will kill their spouse because they are sad little men, and abused women will only have murder as a way out.
I will never understand not caring about being wanted, desired, or loved.
The most special feeling in life was knowing someone loved me deeply for being kind and loving. The biggest loss in life was losing that. I miss her every day, it's such a rare kind of love.
Because this is what you get when a civilization holds onto dead and dying ways of thinking for way too long.
The need for loveless marriage for physical, material, and political reasons is dead. It died over 200 years ago. But we never stopped trying to make it a thing. We grew up on the idea that love was something that just happens and isn't something that takes a lot of time and work to create. I see it in a lot of my friends who struggle with relationships. My male or individuals that take on the traditional masculine role seem to think simply proving material things and enjoying some of the same hobbies is all it takes to be loved. Nah, it's much deeper than that.
I've also dated women who want the relationship to always feel like butterflies and hallmark commercials. We just don't give honest depictions and expectations for what love is. It's a major problem. Along with financial, environmental, and political issues it's no wonder marriage and birth rates are falling. But conservatives think reintroducing women suffrage will somehow reverse the trend.
All they'll get is more Lorena Bobbitt situation and missing women cases.
Yeah, no kidding. The butthurt incel types are very upset that women here have any autonomy whatsoever. I bet more than a few of them would be fine with revoking their rights to credit, as well as to driver's licenses. Not even kidding.