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[–] [email protected] 19 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

The funny (sad?) thing about this is the people pushing it think that this is going to force women to stay with fine upstanding Christian men when the women are no longer happy in the marriage.

They fail to see that no-fault divorce benefits men, too. Plenty of men are in relationships with women who are incompatible with them and generally suck the joy out of their life. No-fault divorce benefits ALL genders, not just the one that the conservatives consider to be "weak." Ask me how I know...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

They also benefit those men because they get to live. You take away no fault divorce and a lot of men in those red states are going to experience tragic misadventures.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

Oh, men will still be able to divorce women, they'll make sure of that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

All I can think of is like every other country song from 1940-1970, where it's about a woman killing her husband, or escaping her husband, or how her husband died mysteriously.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

No fault divorce helps those who aren’t the one at fault for an unhappy marriage. And honestly it helps those sufficiently at fault too by keeping them alive. It’s really only the people who are unpleasant to be around and would be less happy alone than in a marriage where they’re the reason their spouse is unhappy that benefit.

Like seriously I have a friend whose husband decided to leave her for a midlife crisis (she didn’t say that but she described it) and while she’s financially fucked if she doesn’t get alimony, once her finances are resolved she’s going to be better off assuming she can get health insurance. She’s actually a bit excited to be single because the marriage isn’t happy anymore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

If you want a divorce, now you have to have fault (sex). This is the people pushing this only chance to have it (men and women).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They fail to see that no-fault divorce benefits men, too. Plenty of men are in relationships with women who are incompatible with them and generally suck the joy out of their life.

Yes, very true. The key here, I think, is that the qons that support this feel that men will be given special privileges to nullify a divorce, while women will not. They may be correct in that view when it comes to typical implementation of the law...

Also, the dumbass young men that support this and don't like women having autonomy also may be overlooking the downside that you point out, because they lack experience with relationships. Relationships are very difficult things to maintain, but if you are getting your notion of how relationships do/should work from pickup artists, or people that compare humans to lobsters, you are going to have almost no clue about that...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

I don’t even think it’s that. I think they think women leave men for no good reason and good men are usually happy in marriages. Probably they also think that being stuck in a marriage will make people work on it more.

As someone happily married all that’s bullshit. Marriage is hard work and the fact that my wife can and will leave me if she decides she’s less happy with me in her life than without inspires me to always put in that work and to keep improving. And the same goes in the other direction. Our love inspires and pushes us to be worth each other’s time, energy, and life.

A lot of right wing men need to grow the fuck up