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Summary

Israeli settlers in the West Bank, emboldened by Trump’s return and a far-right Israeli government, are pushing for formal sovereignty over the territory.

Settlement activity has surged to record levels under Prime Minister Netanyahu, with nearly 6,000 acres designated as state land in 2024 and dozens of new outposts established.

While settlers see this as fulfilling Biblical claims, Palestinians view it as erasing hopes for a future state.

Critics warn annexation could jeopardize regional stability and U.S.-brokered normalization efforts, such as those with Saudi Arabia.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We did it, Patrick! We saved Palestine!

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yay, no more genocide! I knew both sides were the same.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Technically, a successful genocide stops. If the goal was specifically that the genocide would end more quickly, then I suppose they got what they wanted.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Easy to end war forever. Just nuke everyone.

🤓

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

I hate that I'm upvoting this.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry, I'm hard of hearing. I think you asked for extra genocide? That’s our new chef’s speciality!

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 weeks ago (19 children)

Good thing we didn't vote for those democratic genocidists

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“I don’t want basic Genocide, I want to evolve to stage 2 Genocidonite”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Instead of genocide, we now have genocide 2: Electric Boogaloo

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

"think global! genocide local"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The "a vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide" people were literally saying before the election that Palestinian genocide cannot get worse because genocide is genocide.

So I guess this isn't worse?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

i don't understand that crowd at all. how do you look at kamala's promise to stay the course, and donald trumps promise to send even more aid, and not understand it is possible to send more. there is not a ceiling to more. our military industrial complexeis very capable of delivering more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't either, but more than one person told me that. I even heard it after she lost.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

absolutely. i even ran into someone who thought that in meatspace and it's like… how do you fall for this obvious bullshit so easy?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

This is from June 2020.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he is planning to effectively annex parts of the occupied West Bank in what would be a major - and highly controversial - act.

This is from July 2023.

Israel Is Officially Annexing the West Bank

A quiet bureaucratic maneuver by Netanyahu’s government has begun transferring control over the occupied territory from military to civilian leadership—violating international law.

Here's an entire wiki page about all they've been doing in the West Bank since 1967.

This is nothing new, it's just a next step that would have been taken regardless.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I don't get why they're still going at it over this. This lefty infighting is exactly why fascists that hate each other somehow manage to gain ground.

There's nothing wrong with using what little power one had in voting blue. It doesn't mean they're "pro-genocide". We're elbow-deep in a shitty system where we had two awful friggin choices, and the system is designed so that objection is simply removing your voice entirely.

I can understand that rationale on a moral level, to want to abstain from this nonsense entirely. I get it. But also there's no way we could've convinced the majority of a brainwashed country to say "none of these." (That's not even an option on many ballots btw). It'd be awesome! But not realistic.

But for the people actively bashing those who voted blue in last-ditch desperation, seriously can you not understand it? Believe me, we know the Dems bring nothing to the table besides "Not being those guys." I doubt there were so many "Kamala fans" compared to how many were "Not this Cheeto-Toddler shit again" fans.

It's not about "enabling genocide" or not, to those folks. We figured that a blue win would mean a government that could still be swayed by the people to act against violence, even if the chance was slim!

This compared to a tyrannical regime that will simply iron-fist any dissent to their single-minded aims, and actively make the world worse every day.

We had a razor-thin chance to give ourselves just a little more time to change things.

But here we are:

  • It was a struggle to motivate people to vote at all.
  • Apathetic squabbling over moral nuance didn't stand a chance against zealoutous fanaticism.
  • What now? Can we finally demolish the Democratic party for failing us while replacing it with those who would speak for us?

It's time we learn to get along and focus on what is and claw for every inch of ground if we're going to fix anything. Because they aren't going to give us any breathing room while we keep dunking on each other for not being "pure enough for the cause."

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Revive" suggests that this goal was ever dead. Israel has been progressively seizing Palestinian land in the West Bank for half a century.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

they're communicating something about their timeframe… they're announcing they're about to accelerate again…

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Accelerationists are begining to see seeing acceleration...

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The “I did this” sticker is getting pretty wide what with Putin, Netanyahu, Trump, Xi, and the American voter all on it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Seems like the point, no? Diffuse the responsibility such that the worst atrocities are "everyone's fault".

Kinda reminds me of climate change inaction

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Revive? When was it dead exactly? They seemed to be going Full Tilt for the last couple years. Nothing was stopping them.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago

This is from June 2020.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he is planning to effectively annex parts of the occupied West Bank in what would be a major - and highly controversial - act.

This is from July 2023.

Israel Is Officially Annexing the West Bank

A quiet bureaucratic maneuver by Netanyahu’s government has begun transferring control over the occupied territory from military to civilian leadership—violating international law.

Here's an entire wiki page about all they've been doing in the West Bank since 1967.

If you think this is new and is only happening because of Trump, you haven't been paying attention and are falling for propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

Israeli settlers never killed the idea.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

Cool, so we can finally dispose the myth of Israel being a democracy, get over chasing the chimera of a two state solution, and crystallize the struggle to the simple, unambiguous goal of ending Jewish supremacy and the apartheid and establishing a democratic republic with equality and rights for everyone from the river to the sea. Cool.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

Yes I'm sure the 4 settlers Biden sanctioned for 3 weeks, definitely threw a wrench into Israel's plan of overtaking the west bank.

It'll totally be because Trump takes office and not because settlers didn't just get 14 months of free land grabbing with zero repercussions on top of their yearly land stealing antics ever since Israel's inception.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

They were calling for annexation of the west bank a month ago, gaza violence never stopped, and they are doing the same now in Lebanon. Are we now pretending that Biden was holding them back? He clearly wasnt.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

He even came out to stop Bernie’s proposal to stop arms shipments to Israel, and called the ICC arrest warrant of Netanyahu and Gallant “outrageous” just to drive home the point.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Settlement activity has surged to record levels under Prime Minister Netanyahu, with nearly 6,000 acres designated as state land in 2024 and dozens of new outposts established.

Okay, but this was all done under Biden not Trump?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

If only they could figure out a solution to the problem of those feisty inhabitants.

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