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Alex Jones sues Sandy Hook families and Onion over ‘Frankenstein bid’ for Infowars (www.the-independent.com)

submitted 14 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Summary

Alex Jones has sued Sandy Hook families and The Onion’s parent company, Global Tetrahedron, alleging a conspiracy in their joint $1.75M bid to acquire Infowars during a bankruptcy auction.

Jones claims their bid unfairly appeared more valuable due to the families waiving portions of their payout, benefiting other defamation victims.

The bankruptcy trustee dismissed the allegations as baseless. Sandy Hook families vowed to hold Jones accountable, while the auction process faces judicial scrutiny over transparency.

A hearing is scheduled for November 25. Jones owes over $1B in defamation damages.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 24 minutes ago (1 children)

The dude is a giant shit stain and an embarrassment on society.
That said, he might actually have a point with this suit.

If I'm understanding the situation correctly, you have a situation where his website and media platform are up for auction to pay the huge judgment against him.

Ordinarily that would be fairly simple, various interested parties submit bids for whatever is on the block, and whoever bids highest gets it.

But it seems like in this case a significant portion of the 'money' from the 'winning bid' came from families who would receive that money agreeing to forfeit it as part of this particular bid. So the bid was 'we will pay XYZ in cash and defendants ABC will forfeit their claims if we win'. And furthermore, there is a claim of collusion between the winning plaintiffs and the auctioneer. That is of course a huge ethical issue.
One could, without in any way supporting Jones, make the argument that due process is not being followed here and the auctioneer is not maintaining impartiality.

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no love for the guy. But as much as I dislike him and the awful effect he has on our country, the judicial process must stay neutral. That is the difference between a fair trial and a witch hunt. If it truly was the case that the auctioneer was not neutral, and acted with the goal of ensuring Jones did not maintain any control over InfoWars, then he has an excellent chance of winning this lawsuit and at the very least having a new auction process for his media empire.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago

Just like the legal system allowed him to transfer assets to his father, who is the other party bidding on info wars... he is just trying to buy it with the money he hid during bankruptcy. You have a point but I don't really care anymore if the legal system is a witch hunt with these snakes all the do is lie cheat and steal while I have to be good and maintain a "neutral" justice system for them to fuck everyone else over with.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The asshole of humanity

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Well one of them anyway

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago

Ok but can we talk about the hilarious neck beard that complements the bald head giving the impression that his face is the wrong side up?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

God this guy is a piece of shit. Actually, I take that back. He's not a piece of shit. He's the whole pile of shit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

He's the vomit that shit vomits when it smells itself.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Wow really? "No u"? Fuck this guy

[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Careful, Alex. By the time you're done you might owe another billion to them, considering your thin knowledge of how anything works ever.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

When you owe the bank a thousand dollars, that's your problem. When you owe the bank a million dollars, that's the bank's problem.

The Sandy Hook families already know they will never recover the entire damages award. Spending real money on any future lawsuit won't put another dime in their pockets, only add to the portion that never gets paid because he won't make it in his lifetime. They'll probably do it anyway for the satisfaction of making him squirm in front of a judge, but owing another billion is irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That fuckhead has no leg to stand on in that. Guess he thinks old diaper dons people will back him

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps not, but those families have to pay for lawyers now to defend against this BS suit, wasting more of their money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the original lawyers take it pro per or pro se. No expense to the Sandy Hook families.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 hours ago

Come on dude, take the L.

[–] [email protected] 250 points 14 hours ago (12 children)

And it’s going to go nowhere. This is just the latest in Alex’s decade+ campaign of harassment against these people.

There was nothing wrong let alone illegal about the auction or the circumstances of The Onion’s win. He’s just butthurt that his little scheme to have Elon and Roger Stone buy infowars and give it back to him didn’t work.

[–] iAmTheTot 60 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

You have infinitely more confidence is the justice system than I do.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is still a bankruptcy case and that's pretty apolitical.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I think that would depend on the judge that the next cases land on, if it's a maga judge then doing justice won't be a priority. Jones seems to be playing for time and appears to hope that Trump's next government can change the playing field for him.

Why justice will become less apolitical in the USA: Maga is fascist and fascism is a totalitarian form of government. In totalitarianism there is no room for an independent judiciary. The USA is only at the beginning of it's maga era, so it still has a mostly independent judiciary, but dismantling that independence is already a part of the plan. And that dismantling can go fast, in Poland it only took a few years to do so. After their 2015 election, the polish Law and Justice party (aka pis) rushed the process with a series of illegal coups to get it done asap, I think their reforms were mostly finished by 2018.

In other words, I wouldn't count out Alex Jones just yet.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 12 hours ago

This is just the latest in Alex’s decade+ campaign of harassment against these people.

Can’t they just sue him back because he is basically doing what he did in the first place and got fucked over to begin with?

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[–] [email protected] 164 points 14 hours ago (11 children)

For a guy that owes 1B he sure seems to have a lot of money left.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 hours ago

He signed most of his assets to his dad.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 12 hours ago

I’m sure he’ll spend it all to make sure they don’t get any if he’s got the opportunity.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

He's just going to keep suing and suing for every step to try to wear everyone down.

Curious if they'd be able to sanction him as a Vexatious litigant, or if that would go too far in denying him his legal rights.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vexatious_litigation

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

If the judges had any propriety for the rule of law they'd just start holding his lawyers in contempt for every new lawsuit they try to bring forth. If he has no one to represent him, the house of cards comes down.

But we don't have a justice system, we have a legal system full of politically appointed judges who spend their entire careers trying to dismantle the country.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 12 hours ago

What an insufferable piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Calling this a "Frankenstein bid" is the closest Alex Jones has ever gotten to reading a work of classic literature.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

That reminds me, Alex Jones talks about Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke a lot, in fact, his belief that aliens are demons is plagiarized from it. But the funny thing is, there's a searchable archive of transcripts for all his shows. And if you search for "Childhood's End", the first time he ever mentioned it was a week after the SyFy channel aired their three-part miniseries in 2015. So he's clearly never actually read the novel, despite regularly talking about how much he loves it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, it's been since high school that I read that book admittedly, but wasn't it kinda reversed, where concepts of demons are in universe subconsciously inspired by the appearance of the aliens, rather than the aliens themselves being demons?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Yes, but Alex Jones has the media literacy of a bowl of mashed potatoes. He picks and chooses what he likes from movies and tv shows to shape his conspiracy theories and ignores the rest. It’s a point that’s discussed often on the Knowledge Fight podcast. (Which is devoted to debunking infowars) He’s constantly missing the point of the media he claims to love.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok so I'll sue Alex Jones and then he can sue me, then the families can sue him for suing me, then you guys can sue the families for suing him and he can sue you guys for liking pineapple pizza, then I can sue the universe for creating all this stupidity.

That's how the law works right?

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

You’re a hoopy guy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

He's a frood who really knows where his towel is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

A real frood.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Go the fuck away and die already you fat conspiracist clown.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

Hey now, no need to body shame the conspiracy clown. That fascist grifter has plenty of things we can criticize without acting like Republicans.

Like how he's an extremely pathetic bigot who keeps making up obviously fake anecdotes about his favorite scapegoats fearing him and everyone else adoring him wherever he goes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If he wins he gets money from the families so that he can use that money to pay back the families

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

Could the families use this to generate infinite payouts? I think so.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

This. Fucking. Guy.

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