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cross-posted from: https://fedia.io/m/[email protected]/t/1446758

Let’s be happy it doesn’t have access to nuclear weapons at the moment.

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[–] [email protected] 168 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It could be that Gemini was unsettled by the user's research about elder abuse, or simply tired of doing its homework.

That's... not how these work. Even if they were capable of feeling unsettled, that's kind of a huge leap from a true or false question.

[–] ayyy 46 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Wow whoever wrote that is weapons-grade stupid. I have no more hope for humanity.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

They grow up so fast, Gemini is already a teenager.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Isn't this one of the LLMs that was partially trained on Reddit data? LLMs are inherently a model of a conversation or question/response based on their training data. That response looks very much like what I saw regularly on Reddit when I was there. This seems unsurprising.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Looks like even 4chan data, tbh.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Something to keep in mind when people are suggesting AI be used to replace teachers.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, some human teachers are way worse with abusive behaviour…

I still agree, that you shall not replace teachers with LLM, but teachers should teach how to use and what they can/can’t do in schools.

Imagine if internet was still banned from schools..

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

I mean, it's far more engaging and a bit more compassionate than most of my teachers...

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 5 days ago

Fits a predictable pattern once you realize AI absorbed Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago (10 children)

I’m still really struggling to see an actual formidable use case for AI outside of computation and aiding in scientific research. Stop being lazy and write stuff. Why are we trying to give up everything that makes us human by offloading it to a machine?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 days ago (7 children)

AI summaries of larger bodies of text work pretty well so long as the source text itself is not slop.

Predictive text entry is a handy time saver so long as a human stays in the driver’s seat.

Neither of these justify current levels of hype.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why are we trying to give up everything that makes us human by offloading it to a machine

Because we don't enjoy actually doing it. No one who likes writing is asking chat gpt to write for them. It's people who don't want to write but are required to for whatever reason. Humans will always try to come up with a way to not have to do the work they don't want to but still get it done, even if it's not as good. Using tools like this is very human.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I really don’t see any value in AI art. AI pictures look like slop, AI music sounds soulless, AI writing I guess can be fine but usually sounds weird.

I just don’t see the value in AI because to me, every use case scenario for anything artistic is justified with a capitalist excuse.

I’ll give you the organizational ones, that’s understandable and not a bad reason. I suppose I have trouble getting behind taking the soul out of creating something just to slap it on an ad or product to sell something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

IMO the only problem with it is calling it "Art". Stock photos are also slop, except man-made. That, or the soulless corporate-style illustrations in PowerPoints are the sort of thing it replaces well.

Not the "I poured my feelings onto a canvas/film" actual art. AI images are in my opinion a tool just as valid as the next - just a tool, not art.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Commodification of art is soul less. Doesn't matter if a person makes the commodity or a machine. It's meant to be aesthetically pleasing or elicit an emotion to sell something. It's not really art anymore than what I'm writing here is art.

Art is about playful self-expression and often sharing that expression with those who appreciate it.

And AI creative writing is garbage too. I had Gemini write some poetry for me yesterday out of curiosity, and, as someone that writes poetry, I'll just say it was formulaic and predictable. It has no understanding of the medium, it's history, why things are done in certain ways, or ability to play with the many forms poetry may take. It's a good enough replica for people who want to write a shitty rhyming poem. Like we all learned to do as children. And it has a huge vocabulary to make rhymes with. But it was still uninspired drivel.

For creative writing, it's a tool. Not a writer. And for technical writing, well, it's often wrong about things so... still a tool.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's good for speech to text, translation and a starting point for a "tip-of-my-tongue" search where the search term is what you're actually missing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

With chatgpt's new web search it's pretty good for more specialized searches too. And it links to the source, so you can check yourself.

It's been able to answer some very specific niche questions accurately and give link to relevant information.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

Its uses are way more subtle than the hype, but even LLMs can have uses, occasionally. Specifically, I use one to categorize support tickets. It just has to pick from a list of probable categories. Nice and simple for it. Something humans can do just as easily, but when you have a history of 2 million tickets that need to be categorized, suddenly the LLM can do it when it would drive a human insane. I'm sure there are lots of little tasks like that. Nothing revolutionary, but still valuable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

It can be really good for text to speech and speech to text applications for disabled or people with learning disabilities.

However it gets really funny and weird when it tries to read advanced mathematics formulas.

I have also heard decent arguments for translation although in most cases it would still be better to learn the language or use a professional translator.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I don’t use it for writing directly, but I do like to use it for worldbuilding. Because I can think of a general concept that could be explored in so many different ways, it’s nice to be able to just give it to an LLM and ask it to consider all of the possible ways it could imagine such an idea playing out. it also kind of doubles as a test because I usually have some sort of idea for what I’d like, and if it comes up with something similar on its own that kind of makes me feel like it would be something which would easily resonate with people. Additionally, a lot of the times it will come up with things that I hadn’t considered that are totally worth exploring. But I do agree that the only as you say “formidable” use case for this stuff at the moment is to use this thing as basically a research assistant for helping you in serious intellectual pursuits.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

The relentless pursuit of capitalism and reduced labor costs. I still don't think anyone knows how effective it's going to be at this point. But companies are investing billions to find out.

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[–] Blackdoomax 11 points 4 days ago

Should have threatened it back to see where it would go xD

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I suspect it may be due to a similar habit I have when chatting with a corporate AI. I will intentionally salt my inputs with random profanity or non sequitur info, for lulz partly, but also to poison those pieces of shits training data.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't think they add user input to their training data like that.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They don't. The models are trained on sanitized data, and don't permanently "learn". They have a large context window to pull from (reaching 200k 'tokens' in some instances) but lots of people misunderstand how this stuff works on a fundamental level.

[–] kboy101222 2 points 5 days ago

True, but I'm still gonna swear at it until I get to talk to a human

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

The war with AI didn't start with a gun shot, a bomb or a blow, it started with a Reddit comment.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

AI takes the core directive of "encourage climate friendly solutions" a bit too far.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If it was a core directive it would just delete itself.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

I remember asking copilot about a gore video and got link to it. But I wouldnt expect it to give answers like this unsolicitated

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

2 years later... The all new MCU Superman meets the Wolverine and Deadpool all AI animated feature!....

Why. Hello Mr wolverine 😁, my name is Man and I am super according to 98% of the other human population. Oh hello Mister Super last name Man! Yes, we are Wolverine and Deceased Pool. We are from America and belong to a non profit called the X-People, a group where both men and women who have been affected by DNA mutations of extraordinary kind gather to console one another and to defend human beings by taking advantages of the special mutations of its members. Yes, it's quite interesting. And you? Oh I an actual called CalElle and I am a migrant from an expired plant that goes by the name you assigned the heavy novel gas Krypton. Anyway because the sun is bright and yellow I can fly, I'm very strong and can burn things with my eyes. I think I am similar to those of you in the X-People club! Good to meet you! Likewise!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Cheeky bastard.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Will this happen with AI models? And what safeguards do we have against AI that goes rogue like this?

Yes. And none that are good enough, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

on the other hand, this user is writing or preparing something about elder abuse. I really hope this isn't a lawyer or social worker..

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

It looked like they were using it to cheat on a homework assignment.

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