All of us should lead this fight, chrissakes.
this post was submitted on 18 Nov 2024
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No doubt. But this is about the options still left on the table.
I’m sure there won’t be any financial impact from the largest global manufacturer converting their means of production to renewable energy sources.
Way to “stick it to China,” Trump.
America has abdicated its role, and that role will be filled
As far as I know China is not only the largest economy or about on par with the US, but has also made huge strides in renewables, so this makes sense actually, much as we are not used to hearing international bodies inviting China to lead. I would go as far as saying this is a case of China already leading the world - at least at home, not sure how clean or energy-efficient their offshore projects are.
China is huge. They work a lot on green energy, but on the other hand they don't care about opening a new coal plant each week.
We shouldn't be giving them credit when their green initiatives are mostly just greenwashing and capitalistic in nature.
Adam Tooze just gave an address in Zurich and talks about this very question.. apparently China is very well aware of this issue and is currently "working on it"
much as we are not used to hearing international bodies inviting China to lead.
There is much you don't hear about China because it doesn't fit the official narrative, and much you do hear which is distorted and/or unsubstantiated and/or simply untrue from western corporate media.
Haven't they already been? The US talks good but then doesn't follow through. Didn't China actually put up record numbers of wind and solar fields?
If china is our last hope then we are truly 100% fucked.
Why though?
Most of the consumption excesses people on Lemmy condemn the US for, are enabled and facilitated by China. The entire "disposable crap" culture is only possible because of China and its cheap manufacturing base, and lesser standards of health, safety, environmental protection, etc.
I don't buy that.
There's plenty of disposable crap manufactured outside of China including the US. I'm pretty sure if China along with all cheap labor destinations disappeared in cloud or smoke tomorrow, the US multinationals who made their shit there would invest in equipment to make it in the US with less labor and lower the environmental standards to do it, perhaps with the help of internment camped, undocumented immigrant labor. The southern right-to-work, deregulationist states already serve this purpose. Ford is building their new factories in Kentucky, not Michigan.
Another point against is that a lot less disposable crap is consumed in the EU which has just as much access to the China's manufacturing base.
And so I'm pretty sure this problem isn't a China problem but a US problem. A systemic one, driven by the incessant search for profit maximization and growth.
Also China recently started producing freons again. I thought we got rid of that problem for good, but no..
This if true is concerning.
I've checked and it seems things are not that bad on that front. The identified new Chinese sources were eliminated, if I understand correctly. There are still some sources unaccounted for, which is concerning, but those might be anywhere, not just in China.
Here's an article, if you were interested: https://climate.nasa.gov/news/3065/nasa-funded-network-tracks-the-recent-rise-and-fall-of-ozone-depleting-pollutants/
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