Issue #1 or 5? You decide!
This got a bonus chuckle from me.
this post was submitted on 15 Nov 2024
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Can Trolley Man at least multi-track drift?
I keep seeing this image, were ist from?
yes, if you change the problem, you change the way we respond. that's why there's so many trolley problems spin offs in the first place
The artist just immortalized in a strip that does not understand the trolley problem.
It understands it just fine. Agency is not a factor in the decision. The choice between action and inaction doesn't matter. People think it matters because people are driven by shortsighted emotions.
I think the thing that people often don’t seem to understand about the trolley problem is that it doesn’t have a “single version”, it’s a framework for exploring human decision making. And the correct answer, it’s all a matter of perspective. For example, if all of drag’s friends were on one side of the track, and on the other side of the track, were a number of people who drag does not know, equal to the number of drag’s friends plus one, would drag kill their friends, or the innocent people?
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Agency might matter depending on societal context. 5 hot guys might be worse than 1 hot guy in a world with limited resources, for example.
Everyone knows that 5 of something is usually better than 1. The dilemma comes from finding a situation where that might not be true, and therein exploring some quirks of our own humanity.
It goes too far when people interpret these quirks as fundamental human traits, but there is genuine merit in testing oneself with fun hypotheticals
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So philosophical debate on this topic is meaningless, because utilitarism is obviously correct?
Please take off your clothes and lay down here, I have five patients in desperate need of organ transplants.
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What a crock of shit. Living with the knowledge that you killed someone isn't shortsighted, it's tragic. You pulling the trigger to switch the trolley to kill only the 1 person can and will have consequences on your own mental health.
And the comic isn't even about the choice between action and inaction, it's about "Oh wow, 5>1, this dilemma is easy lol" - nah, even if you make it purely about the numbers - unless you're a fucking psychopath, you're not gonna kill your newborn to save 5 strangers.
Living with knowing you did nothing to save 4 people may affect you as badly. To be fair, the person doing the choice is fucked up both ways, if ey is not a sociopath.
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Don’t bother trying to explain philosophy directly to people online. We’re so convinced of our own intelligence that we refuse to consider that our knee-jerk reaction to anything might be worth exploring.
If you want people to learn anything, you have to first of all tell them that they’re right, then add whatever you’re trying to teach them as if it’s some nuance of whatever they’re right about. Even if it makes their original opinion completely wrong. It works surprisingly often.
Our egos have an outer layer of armor that prevents us from easily absorbing ideas unless they have a starting point of agreeing with whatever we already believe.
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Still saves more lives than Homelander
Isn't Homelander a villain though? I thought he was supposed to be a villain.
Edit: NM I didn't realize Homelander was from The Boys. I honestly thought he was the guy in Guardians of The Galaxy 3
Edit 2: Apparently that character's name is Adam Warlock.
Spoiler
Homelander is the villain in the boys.
Anyone who drinks milk on-screen is always a villain.
Counterargument: Luke Skywalker.
At that point isn’t he? He created Kylo and then left everyone else to figure it out.
Not really a hero’s move
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Let's see, Milk is a symbol of innocence and purity in movies, and is often used to make the audience feel uncomfortable when a villain or anti-hero drinks it.
This is because milk is typically associated with childhood, which is considered the most innocent and pure time of life.
When a villain drinks milk, it can represent the consumption or destruction of innocence, and can be used to indicate the villain's loss of innocence
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Ahh, kk. Never seen it, but I guess the two characters seem similar in that respect at least.
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The multiple layers of confusion gave me a laugh, thank you.
I remember reading The Infinity gauntlet comics and in it Adam warlock was supposed to be the greatest human being ever created.
And then they picked the actor that they chose for him and I'm just not seeing it.
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I just played this as a board game with my friends. They decided that pineapple on pizza is worse than Donald Trump. My hope in humanity is shattered.
That is crazy. I can't think of any part of Donald Trump that I would want on my pizza.
Aren't we always chanting "eat the rich"? I'd be fine with the food poisoning, hell even the brain eating prions, if it means he won't be president.
Touché
It's close to the second ghost rider (and maybe the first, been awhile since I dug up my old comics) who didn't have powers until innocent blood was spilled (though typically it was the villain who spilled it).
Also a spin-off where Trolley Man cures incurable patients one by one using sacrifices of 5
The best part is that, by refusing to be killed themselves, they are making a choice to let the other people die, rendering their hypocrisy evident and their worry fully rendered moot
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The Dave Chappelle bit about Bill Cosby being a superhero.... but he rapes.
Just put explosives collars on a bunch of murderers and rapists. Need superpowers just press a button and kill one murderer off.
I would read the shit out of this but 5 people I have never and will never meet who nobody knows will die painlessly and I’m just not sure of the moral implications.
I want more of this. Reminds me on the anime Darker than Black, where those with power always had to fulfill some contract to use their power, else they'd die.
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"collateral damage"
So he killed Stan Lee?
And here was I thinking that this character was so terrible that it caused Stan Lee to spontaneously spring back into existence in order to make that opinion known.
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