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Owners of the affected trucks will require replacement hardware.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

An actual recall that requires a hardware fix / replacement this time, and not a software update.

Am I reading the PDF right in that 1% or 2,431 trucks are affected, meaning they sold ~240k trucks?

Edit: official numbers are more around 30-40k worldwide as far as I can find. Idk how to read it, perhaps they mean 2,431 is the maximum but the expectation is 1%?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can't decide if that's higher or lower than I expected.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

It’s definitely higher than I was expecting, but nowhere near what Musk would want you to believe

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ford, Chevrolet, and Dodge each sold over 700k half-ton pickup trucks last year, while Toyota sold only 130k Tundras. I suppose it's possible that there are a quarter million suckers out there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I have edited my comment with information I found and it seems Tesla is selling nowhere near that amount (30-40k)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Those are all more affordable, reliable, and established brands though.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

At this point, looking at this vehicle with your naked eyes is bound to cause damage.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

It harms my soul looking at this vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

Hard to understand the calculus of people who would still be willing to buy a Tesla at this point. They're literal death traps with shoddy manufacturing

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

I saw one the other day painted neon yellow. Believe it or not, it actually seemed like an improvement.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

saw two of em in person this week. they’re even uglier in person

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's amazing, they look awful in videos and pictures but then you see one in person and it's just stunning to look at, not in a good way. They're the stupidest looking things.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 1 points 1 week ago

My kids love them for some reason, I think they're an eyesore. To each their own, but even if I liked how they look, there's no way I'm paying that much for one.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder what the reward is if you get 10 recalls on your punchcard?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago

You get the thing that represents all cyber truck owners: a lollipop, or as it's also known—a "sucker."

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I keep forgetting how nasty they look.. I'm glad I don't have to see these on European roads. Not yet, at least.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s a trip seeing them around. Somehow they look even worse in person.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When I first saw one pass by me in reality, my first reaction was "jesus". And the colors I've seen on display (a Tesla store is nearby), wtf? Not that a good color would help a lot, it still looks very wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I see way too many around here and people have taken to putting wraps on it. I love seen one that tries to make it look like the Warthog from Halo.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Something about pigs and lipstick...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I don't really care what they look like. If any truck actually could meet the promises these made, I'd buy the shit out of them:

-All electric

-Sophisticated sensor suite to improve operational safety

-Working performance comparable to F150

-low maintenance

-Can be used as home power backup

-not a Deathtrap

-not a Killing machine

It hits the electric points, but that's it. It's a bad truck. It doesn't fulfill any of the "smart" promises. Death trap killing machines in constant recall that can't handle rain... Let alone do work.

The aesthetic doesn't even make my list of complaints. It's like the whole industry has been trying to make trucks as shitty as possible for like 30 years. Give me a '94 ranger electric conversion kit and it's game fucking over cyber truck.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So what about the F150 Lightning doesn’t meet that? It actually offers whole house backup which is something that caught my attention

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Not in love with the "big boy" from factor but when I believe they're going to enter "long term support" territory I absolutely would be interested.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm definitely a fan of the Lightning, but it's a huge truck, similar to a Raptor in length. It wouldn't fit in my driveway. They need an EV Mavick or Ranger. (I've heard rumors of a Ranger PHEV, which could be a game changer for EV towing)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah he just mentioned “F150 performance” and it’s literally an F150. That’s what prompted my question.

It’ll be great to see them start coming out with smaller truck sized EVs.

[–] n3m37h 4 points 2 weeks ago

How can it be a death trap when it is only found on flat beds?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Doesn't the electric F-150 meet all those demands?

I can't get one as they are not sold here but from the specs they look like exactly what you'd want. I assume since you mentioned it you can buy them where you are.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I doubt they’ll ever come to Europe. They don’t meet even the most basic crash safety standards. These things are designed to annihilate pedestrians, not to try to reduce harm.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They don’t meet even the most basic crash safety standards.

Well that's just incorrect.

We actually have no idea what crash safety standards they meet because Tesla hasn't submitted them for any testing at all, and as we all know from Elon's new BFF, if you don't test for it, you won't have to worry about it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

They did publish a video of a crash test, but I think Tesla did it themselves and didn't publish any data, just a "comparison video" with an F150 Lightning.

It didn't look great... A lot of people were pointing out how tiny the crumple zone is, and the stop seemed more violent than most vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm from Europe and I already met one in my hometown. The other day, it even damaged scaffolding on the Powder Gate in Prague, while it was, hilariously, riding on the bed of a tow truck.

Edit: The individual approval itself is already highly controversial: https://www.wired.com/story/a-rubberized-cybertruck-is-ploughing-through-european-pedestrian-safety-rules/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

They look like they have been on the streets for 10 years. Turns out stainless steel isn't all that stainless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure the EU banned them on the basis that they are death traps for their drivers, other road uses, and pedestrians alike.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

6th recall this year so far

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Cybertruck circa 2026.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago
[–] PrincessLeiasCat 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I ran into a former coworker (we still work at the same place, just different groups now) at a work thing recently and he told me I had to see his new car.

It was this. I told him it was ugly. He tried to show me all the bells and whistles. I told him I was glad he liked it, but it was still ugly.

He said yeah…that’s what my wife says too. She hates it.

lol

[–] andrew_bidlaw 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It looks like they purposedly made it that way.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat 6 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

He was bragging about the stainless steel being made to withstand bullets and we do live in a large city in the US in a state with basically no gun control, so I told him I could potentially see that coming in useful during rush hour on the freeways.

He had a story for why it was shaped the way it was, the windows are angled at the most aerodynamically possible angle because that’s important for a car that will probably spend 50% of its life stuck at a red light.

He’s obviously drank the kool aid. When I got back to the office I told my current coworkers, and a couple of interns said that car is super dangerous because it basically has no crumple zones. Then they pulled up some YT videos showing tests proving it.

The best part? We’re all engineers. The interns knew about the crumple zone thing. The senior Elon fanboy was just impressed with the window angle and bulletproof doors. I didn’t ask who he voted for, but I can guess.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

That's what peak efficiency looks like haters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why don't they just fix it and then release it rather than releasing it for 15 minutes and then recalling it again?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure they know they will never be able to "fix" the car, so they just hope that people give up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Enshittenification

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