Democrats Chose Backing a Genocide Over Defeating Trump : usa

[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 hours ago

They would literally, unironically, genuinely lose 100 times to republicans before they elect anybody who would appease anybody left of Clinton.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If liberals had brains they'd want the entire leadership of the DNC thrown into a pit for this and other colossal failures. Instead they're brainless and will just blame us for not voting

[+] [email protected] -8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So you're saying that you didn't vote?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I completely understand your frustration. It sucks knowing that things are going to get worse and it could have been much better if those who didn’t vote, voted for Kamala. And we’re all definitely going to need time to fully process this.

In my opinion though, and I’m not saying that I’m definitely correct - but the feeling I get the reason that the democrats lost is because lots of people felt completely disillusioned with the democratic party. I want to be really clear: Fuck Trump, he’s a fascist in a party of fascists doing fascist things. they will undoubtedly cause death and harm. If there was any justice in this world they’d be on trial for crimes again humanity. But the democrats did not offer enough hope for people to get out and vote. They basically ran on a campaign of “vote for us because you have no better option, the other guy is the worst”, and that is just not an inspiring campaign. Their ongoing support for the genocide in palestine, their lack of interest in fighting for the rights of trans people, all of these things and more left many people, myself included, feeling absolutely abandoned by the democratic party.

I still think that leftists should vote, and they should vote with their heart and with thoughtfulness and think about harm mitigation. But I also cannot blame anyone who just couldn’t muster the energy to go out and queue for hours to express their support for a candidate that they felt very little love for.

I really hope that my love and compassion comes through. It’s hard to express over the internet, and it sometimes feels a little silly, but it’s what we have left. Our love for each other and our hope that the future can be better, even if we may not live to experience that better future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Not voting against what is essentially Hitler so they can "feel good" about their vote is as bad as being one of the fascists themselves. I wish nothing but the worst for anybody who had any hand in bringing him to power.

The absolute worst.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

They always will, they serve the same donors and bourgeois powers. Marx and Lenin are vindicated by the passage of time. They were not clairvoyant, they just accurately analyzed the systems around them and saw what necessarily follows from their directions.

Everyone, get organized, read theory, learn self-defense and self-sufficiency. A good primer is Blackshirts and Reds. Defend yourselves and protect each other.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Great recommendation. Blackshirts and Reds is a great place to start. I'll add on Principles of Communism https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm as a great place to go from there.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That's my favorite intro to Marxism, yes.

Here's a little "intro to Marxism-Leninism" list I threw together, modified a bit. It's critically missing Queer Theory, Feminist Theory, and National Liberation theory, so any additions on that matter would be excellent. I am working through intersectional theory right now, which is why it is missing from this present list, the goal is to be as straight to the point as possible.

A good intro for someone with no familiarity is Engels' Principles of Communism and if you are anti-AES but willing to read I recommend Parenti's Blackshirts and Reds.

From there, it becomes more important to understand that Marxism-Leninism is broken into 3 major components:

Dialectical and Historical Materialism
Critique of Capitalism along the lines of Marx's Law of Value
Advocacy for Revolutionary Socialism

And as such, I recommend, in order:

Politzer's Elementary Principles of Philosophy

By far my favorite primer on Dialectical and Historical Materialism. By understanding DiaMat first, you make it easier to understand the rest of Marxism.

Engels' Socialism: Utopian and Scientific

Further reading on DiaMat, but crucially introduces the why of Scientific Socialism, essentially explaining how Capitalism itself preps the conditions for public ownership and planning by centralizing itself into monopolist syndicates.

Marx's Wage Labor and Capital as well as Wages, Price and Profit

Best taken as a pair, these essays simplify the most important parts of the Law of Value.

Lenin's Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism

Absolutely crucial and the most important work for understanding the modern era and its primary contradictions.

Lenin's The State and Revolution

Excellent refutation of revisionists and Social Democrats who think the State can be reformed, and not replaced. Also a good call to action to cap off the intro.

After reading all of this, whoever has completed these works should have a good grasp of the basics of Marxism-Leninism and be equipped to do their own Marxist-Leninist analysis, though tons of excellent and fairly critical works were dropped for the sake of limiting the scope to an intro reading list. I can make more "advanced" recommendations if they are necessary as well.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

fidel-salute wow great list!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 hours ago

Thanks comrade!

[–] [email protected] 54 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

100%. It wasn't just the genocide though. They alienated the progressives. Kamala was scared to actually talk outside of mostly scripted messaging and interviews. They didn't provide and explain strong progressive policies. To me, Kamala was pretty indistinguishable from Joe Biden and other corporate Democrats. Her picking Tim Walz was a great move and she was way up in the polls. Had she leaned into him more, broke from Joe Biden (even thrown him under the bus a bit), and turned to other progressives for advice rather than the DNC corporate consultants, she would have won.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The Dems will always alienate their leftward sections, they serve monopolist capitalists just like the republicans do. It's time for liberals to be radicalized and read theory, join orgs, and join leftists.

If anyone wants a good intro list on Marxist theory, I can provide one.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Trump IS genocide.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago

Ah, so the choice was between genocide or genocide.

I guess if both sides are evil then people just rationally choose the side that's at least honest.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago

Trump cares about Trump. That’s the long and short of his ideology. He only cares about genocide to the extent that it might benefit him, otherwise he’d rather play golf.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I thought Trump was garbage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

¿Por que no los dos?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago

This cycle the DNC, for the first time, could get the upwardly mobile suburbanite Reagan voters they've been salivating over my whole life. They don't care about winning, they're just happy that hippies don't vote for them anymore while Cheneys do. The DNC is not a political party now, it's a North Virginia cocktail party.

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