this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
697 points (98.9% liked)

World News

38968 readers
2506 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Russian official Dmitry Medvedev, a close ally of Vladimir Putin, suggested Donald Trump’s election victory may benefit Russia’s interests in Ukraine, citing Trump’s reluctance to fund “idiotic allies” and “voracious international organizations.”

Although Medvedev stopped short of celebrating, he hinted Trump’s aversion to foreign spending could weaken U.S. support for Ukraine.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky cautiously congratulated Trump, recalling their recent discussion on U.S.-Ukraine cooperation.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov maintained a guarded tone, noting the U.S. remains an “unfriendly country” involved in the Ukraine conflict.

(page 2) 36 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 194 points 11 hours ago

Mission accomplished.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago

See? Russia doesn't lie all the time.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

To be fair they're saying this not because it's actually useful (which it might be) but because them saying this stirrs shit up and makes people more upset. They're playing on the feeling that is already there, and the best thing to do is to dismiss their comment as a play to make us upset with eachother and watch what they do instead. They want us to burn bridges. That's what's useful to them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Few weeks ago it was Biden that Russia preferred.

I don't understand why people give a fuck about what they have to say.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

People give a fuck because they're (with reason) emotionally invested in the politics of their lives, and which politicians are elected directly effects their lives. That one's not too hard to grasp.

But while that will always be the case, people need to realize that Russian propaganda is inherently opportunistic and it has a goal of pushing us further apart from one another. There are real issues that lead to these sorts of political outcomes.

It's not because of Russia, but the russian state is incredibly efficient at grabbing those issues and amplifying them to the point where we stop trusting our neighbors and families, thus breaking the democratic wheel.

Knowing that is part of the solution but realizing that there are actual issues that make people vote for political figures like Trump and listening to those voters without making assumptions about their morals is even more important.

edit to add: the republicans are part of America. Their voters are part of America. Just as democrats are. Trump is part of it, so is Jill Stein. Own it, learn from it, don't repeat it. Try to understand why it happened. This is true for every country, but with different characters, other movements.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

just wait til he gets in the seat. yall aint seen nothin yet

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

i would imagine it is. they fought very hard for it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago

They aren't wrong to say this.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 hours ago

This is a dumb thing to say what would have Russia said if Kamala won?

"Oh shoot, this is really bad for us"

They'd probably say the exact same thing they did here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Without Biden Ukraine is gone. Europe doesn't have a single backbone to stand up to Russia. If they become Russia's beeswax, it's on them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You don't know much about Europe do you, this was the final nail in the coffin of Atlanticism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Well then, do enlighten me? Who's going to step up providing aid to Ukraine once US stops?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Everyone but Hungary and Serbia? Though Serbia is also fickle because Russia's annexation of the people's republics legitimises Kosovo's independence -- if you can gain statehood unilaterally with a BS referendum, you can definitely do it with a proper one. Hungary will only last as long as Orban, and he seems to be past his prime.

Or where you somehow under the impression that Europe is standing by idly while the US is doing all the work? They're providing surplus military equipment from their to-be-scrapped pile, that's pretty much it.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›