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Summary

In an emotional monologue, John Oliver urged undecided and reluctant voters to support Kamala Harris, emphasizing her policies on Medicare, reproductive rights, and poverty reduction.

Addressing frustrations over the Biden administration’s Gaza policy, he acknowledged the struggle for many voters yet cited voices like Georgia State Rep. Ruwa Romman, who supports Harris despite reservations.

Oliver warned of the lasting consequences of a second Trump term, including potential Supreme Court shifts.

Oliver said voting for Harris would mean the world could laugh at this past week’s photo of an orange, gaping-mouthed Trump in a fluorescent vest and allow Americans to carry on with life without worrying about what he might do next.

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[–] [email protected] 240 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Imperfection should not make the undecided voters give up on democracy, how can we have progressive policy when the people who want it don’t vote?

[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Exactly.

We cannot afford to fall victim to the Nirvana fallacy.

We must work within the system to change the system or we risk being excluded entirely.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nirvana fallacy, also know as "perfect solution fallacy" is suggesting that no solution is better than an imperfect solution. If I can't have nirvana, I don't want anything.

I see it all the time in online arguments. "Oh, you advocate for housing the homeless? Well then why do you have empty rooms in your house? Just fill it with homeless people." this is an example of the fallacy. It suggests that my solution, "house the homeless" should be discarded because it is not a perfect solution, which would be filling my house up with strangers. The goal is to make me say, "oh, I'm not willing to do that, so we should do nothing instead."

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I don't think that's an example. People housing others in their own homes isn't an example of the perfect solution to homelessness. I don't know if we have a name for that fallacy but it's kind of a "put your money where your mouth is" fallacy. If you aren't willing to give up a lot for the solution, you must not really believe it is a problem/solution.

People being against the ACA because it isn't single payer health care is an example of the perfect solution fallacy. Or people being against a $15 minimum wage because it really should be $25 now.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the paraphrased words of an old white dude

Don’t judge her against the Almighty, judge her against the alternative.

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[–] [email protected] 167 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (19 children)

Not voting is an act of renouncing your voice and your rights. It's not a protest. It's at best complicity with the status quo, and at worst going to support a candidate that will be far far worse for the issues you are "protesting". You don't get to complain when you don't vote. All you get to do is sit down, shut up, and continue your inaction.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Living in the US as a person who grew up in Western Europe must be most masochistic way of life possible.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought it was touching where he discussed his worries about using his last opportunity to speak before the election, and that he could be left wondering if there was something else that he could have said to change the outcome if it ends up going bad. I imagine there has to be a good bit of pressure when you have such a large platform.

For a show that points out so many wrongs with our country, it's easy to look at things negatively. But for now, at least, we are able to point out those wrongs and still have a hope we can do something about them. Not even 5 years a citizen, I imagine it could be scary as well that if a re-elected Trump goes for a type of "media reform," Oliver is likely going to be high on the list of people to be looked at.

I hope tomorrow goes well for America. I've been disappointed the last few elections that the comedians have been more critical than the mainstream journalists, but right now, I'm glad we've had them if nothing else, motivating us to still be our best.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ukraine went and elected one of those TV comedians, and, while imperfect, he's been a pretty inspiring leader over the past few years.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am so ready for this election to be over

[–] gravitas_deficiency 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

“Forever elections” are the new normal, imo.

I fucking hate it too :(

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago

If only Citizens United v. FEC could be overturned, because it's so very obviously terrible😅

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Don't worry, once Democrats win 2024 MAGA will just give up forever and stop trying to implement American fascism.

We won't be trapped in a cycle that can only end with the death of the boomers and Gen X or a civil war for the next two decades.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unfortunately the alt-right disease isn't limited to some arbitrary birth date brackets. It spreads to younger people all the time. You can't just wait it out, you have to fight it, and keep fighting it.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 week ago

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2015/01/29/from-the-archives-frederick-douglass-on-the-republican-party/

Frederick Douglas on voting at a time when both Parties had shafted Reconstruction.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago

I suggest watching the entire video from GA State Rep. Ruwa Romman that is embedded in the article. Not so much for her reasoning about why she is voting for Harris, but for her comments of how to accomplish things politically in this country, how it works, how to actually move the country forward bit by bit. It's hard and takes work and time but it can definitely be done, and her thoughts about the Green party, how it doesn't do those things and thus never accomplishes anything.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Oliver said voting for Harris would mean the world could laugh at this past week’s photo of an orange, gaping-mouthed Trump in a fluorescent vest and allow Americans to carry on with life without worrying about what he might do next.

This sounds like my dad. He's kinda a Republican, but doesn't like Trump, and asserted that Trump would just go away after the last election.

Trump and Trumpism are not going away. If Harris wins, even by a lot, it's only going to validate his follower's fears, if it doesn't start an all-out conflict.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Well, I dont think Trump can survive another loss politically. He basically only survived because he moaned about election fraud and refused to accept the results.

Truth is that, the older he gets, the less likely he'll be able to run and the less convincing his "charisma" will be. I think we already see this in effect today to some degree.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Imagine becoming a citizen only for the US to be destroyed by a shitbag reality tv cunt a few years later. Let’s not let that happen.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

C'mon you lazy people. I already voted by mail almost two weeks ago or three. Do that next time if you're going to be lazy like me. But now go out there and face the consequences of your inaction....bad weather, MAGA idiots, fake electors.....fake date if you are prepared to vote Jan 6th or some other date, etc.

Go now! Vote or we're going to have Trump as president again and he's gonna be crazier than before.

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