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Summary

In an emotional monologue, John Oliver urged undecided and reluctant voters to support Kamala Harris, emphasizing her policies on Medicare, reproductive rights, and poverty reduction.

Addressing frustrations over the Biden administration’s Gaza policy, he acknowledged the struggle for many voters yet cited voices like Georgia State Rep. Ruwa Romman, who supports Harris despite reservations.

Oliver warned of the lasting consequences of a second Trump term, including potential Supreme Court shifts.

Oliver said voting for Harris would mean the world could laugh at this past week’s photo of an orange, gaping-mouthed Trump in a fluorescent vest and allow Americans to carry on with life without worrying about what he might do next.

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[–] [email protected] 167 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Not voting is an act of renouncing your voice and your rights. It's not a protest. It's at best complicity with the status quo, and at worst going to support a candidate that will be far far worse for the issues you are "protesting". You don't get to complain when you don't vote. All you get to do is sit down, shut up, and continue your inaction.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Individual politicians and political parties routinely use count a vote as approval. In that way, if no other, voting does serve to support the existing system.

But, even if you believe there must be revolution and the current system CANNOT be reformed, voting is still harm reduction, unless revolution will happen before the results of the election can influence the system.

[–] Kellamity 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Individual politicians and political parties routinely use count a vote as approval. In that way, if no other, voting does serve to support the existing system.

I don't think that tracks.

The highest turnout in any US election since 1908 was 62% in 2020, and at no point has a party won an election and been like 'look at all the people who didn't vote, I guess we don't have a mandate to govern'

Parties win elections and govern in power with less than 50% of voters backing them all the time, it's literally the standard. A low turnout will not change the way any party acts once in power.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I never claimed they would use non-voting as a signal for anything, only that they count votes as agreement, not mere tolerance.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

In that way, if no other, voting does serve to support the existing system.

The amount and percentage of non-voter signals to most politicians that people tacitly approve of the entire system. After all, if they disapproved of something about it, they would've at least bothered to show up and vote, right?

There's no better "the status quo is fine" indicator than not even giving enough of a shit to show up at the polls (or in some cases return a slip of paper through the mail).

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In what world is refusing to participate in a system you see as irreparably broken considered condoning its existence?

For the record, I voted for the lesser fascist because a complete redo of our system will be slightly harder under the rule of greater fascists.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In what world is refusing to participate in a system you see as irreparably broken considered condoning its existence?

In a world where refusal to participate is indistinguishable from being too lazy, complacent, or satisfied to participate, and that is the one we live in.

Do you think politicians are going to go check why you didn't vote? It's basically as if you don't exist to them.

Edit: I find it hilarious that when people disagree with my argument here, they downvote this post to signal that. Why do that? If I'm wrong, I can just look through everyone's viewing history to see all of the people who didn't vote on the post at all instead. 😆

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

When someone that would normally vote blue goes third party, they are giving their vote to trump. That is practically Jill Stein's while entire purpose.

[–] WhyJiffie 3 points 1 month ago

that is why I tend to submit an invalid vote. I vote for exactly none of them.

calm down, I'm not in the US

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Would you be happy for a republican to renounce their vote in protest?