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[–] [email protected] 199 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

It's not so alarming what will happen if Trump gets elected

What's more alarming for me is how dumb America could be that they are even considering electing someone like him ... or to even have a choice between an average politician or a wannabe fascist and everyone is having a hard time deciding on what the sane option is.

This is a general intelligence test for America ... and so far they are failing.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

To be fair, a lot of people believe that choosing neither somehow would absolve them of any guilt should fascism win.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is what I mean .... the choice is either an average politician or an old wing nut orange man ... but the choices are so difficult for Americans to decide that many choose neither and never think that they are instead paving the way for the wannabe fascist.

I can't believe that the fate of the world hinges on the deranged decisions of a completely confused people. As much as I don't want to admit that America has so much influence, they do have literal control over much of the world and they do have the largest most powerful military at the moment. So whoever gets to be leader will set the stage for the stability or instability of the world in the next few years. And it's all riding on ill informed choices of a very ill informed population.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's absurd how much power the executive has. The president shouldn't matter that much. They are responsible for implementing laws that are written and passed by congress. That's pretty much it. Maybe appoint a SCOTUS judge or two. And a bunch of lower court judges. Pending senate approval, of course.

Instead they are now nearly unilaterally in charge of the strongest military and largest economy the world has ever seen. Or at least they will, if Project 2025 or Agenda 47 is to be followed.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago

don't forget the christian second coming accelerationist folk who just want to see it all burn because they're embarrassed they've fucked up too many predictions.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

One party in particular has gone to great lengths to wreck the education system, looks like we are starting to see the results of those efforts.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

The culture of America is rooted in bigoted populism. You know what the big political issue of the 1850s was? 1870's? 1920's? 1960's?

It's the aftermath of the 60s that kept the creeps quiet for awhile, but we're regressing to the mean now. This is the real America for better or worse. Always has been.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Erdogan once said "democracy is a bus we ride until we reach our destination". I feel major similar vibes from the GOP.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is the destination Thunderdome?

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know exactly how bad a second Trump term would be, but I'd really rather not find out. At best it will be embarrassing and absurd, at worst it would be devastating and catastrophic for countless millions, both inside and outside the US.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Right off the top of my head.

  • Ukraine? Fucked
  • Taiwan? Fucked
  • Palestinians? Triple fucked (as bad as the Dems are, a Trump win would remove all barriers).
  • LGBTQ+? Fucked
  • Women? Fucked
[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Latino immigrants? Fucked. Muslim immigrants? Fucked. Economy? Fucked. Healthcare? Fucked. Education? Fucked.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

And then there’s those Haitian immigrants …

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
  • Public schools? Fucked

  • Labor rights? Fucked

  • Environment? Fucked

  • Science-based medicine? Fucked

  • Your ability to vote? Fucked

  • Your freedom of speech? Fucked

  • Children within proximity of religious figures and republican politicians... (see below)



[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Have some Lemmy Gold!

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If American democracy elects Trump, then your version of it has already failed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The fact he's a consideration for the presidency again means we're already broken beyond repair, he'd just be the tombstone.

We'll have fascists shoot Americans in the street and fully protected by the law (and not just the cops who do it) before we ever have a candidate who can give us Universal Healthcare and a better minimum wage.

A wake up call to fix the Democracy was in 2000, and we did nothing. We all ignored our complaints when 9/11 happened, and then did nothing when Trump won in 2016.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

A second Trump term really is an extinction-level threat to democracy worldwide, not just in United States. Considering that Trump and his supporters promise an isolationist policy, all sorts of predatory authoritarian and totalitarian regimes will suddenly feel like they can do anything - and this will start happening all over the world.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Chomsky was right when he properly pointed out that Republicans are the biggest threat to the world.

Donnie is merely a symptom. No Republicans ever should be allowed to hold any office.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago

GOP is an extinction level threat to humanity

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (29 children)

I think he’s a symptom of a much larger disease. The people behind him, the evangelicals, non college educated whites, the climate change deniers, the industrialists who fight every regulation, the behind closed doors racists. These are the democracy extinction harbingers.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

speaker of the house is a devoutly religious buffoon. and he absolutely loves the angry orange. keep that in your thoughts over the next week.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

it's an extinction level event for a lot of things. we're already out of time on so many important issues. every living creature on this earth should consider him a threat. we are in self defense mode, or at least we should be. sadly, most of you don't seem to understand how dire the situation really is.

but whatever. stick your head back in the sand i guess.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

For those who disagree, simply read about Spain, Italy, Germany, and Japan during the 1930's. Furthermore, the Electoral College should be shut down.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I made these pictures because I don't think that arguments like "Trump is a threat to democracy" are something his supporters agree with. Maybe people could share these things in groups they know in these last couple days before the election.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

I'd argue here that right next to Trump, it is the electoral college. But, as Americans can't do anything to change their electoral system, they are probably already owned. If it isn't Trump, it will be another Trump-like candidate, whether Republican or Democrat.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The civil servant job thing is an insurance plan disguised as job security. It would enable Trump to fill the bureaucracy with loyal stooges who will keep doing his bidding during the next administration - like his House cronies did when he told them not to pass the bipartisan border security bill so he could use the border as his main campaign issue.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

I would literally prefer a steaming pile of shit as president than Trump.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

And if he loses, so will the next Republican.

And the next one.

And the next one.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

American democracy, anyways.

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