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He surely would reject any such comparison but, in a recent interview, Justin Trudeau briefly sounded just a little bit like Richard Nixon.

"The problem is right now that there is a silent majority that is a little bit silent, and maybe wondering whether it's actually a minority. And you got a lot of good, thoughtful people saying, you know, 'I don't have anything personal against the leader, but everyone seems to hate him because I see all these flags and therefore, you know, he must be on his way out or he must be unpopular,'" Trudeau told Village Media.

While Nixon, the 37th president of the United States, didn't coin the phrase, he did popularize the notion of a "silent majority" in a televised address about the war in Vietnam in 1969. Those words conjured up an image of a mass of voters who could not be heard over the din of the protesters and activists clamouring for political and social change.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In my experience there's never been any such thing as the "silent majority". It's just something desperately unpopular public figures cling to to convince themselves they (or their policies) are popular.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I've voted Liberal the last few elections, but the last one I was saying I wish Trudeau would step aside because he's too vulnerable and not drawing out any voters. I was only voting against the Conservatives.

I'm not looking forward to this election, because once again I don't want to vote for any of the candidates. This might be my first NDP vote in a long time, but the NDP needs to make changes too and I don't want to give them my support.

But at the end of the day I truly feel Polievre will be Canada's worst prime minister, he has all the characteristics I hate in a politician and none of the leadership skills I'd want, so I have to make a pick from two bad options.

ETA: the strategy of "well they hate me, but I think they'll hate the other guys more" is such an insult to Canadians. If you don't in earnest think Canadians want you to lead them, you should not be a party leader.

[–] sbv 11 points 3 weeks ago

the strategy of "well they hate me, but I think they'll hate the other guys more" is such an insult to Canadians

That's the strategy Canadian politicians bank on. I don't think Harper was popular when he was elected - he just wasn't a Liberal. Same for Chretien - he wasn't a Tory.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah. Best case scenario I've felt would be that Trudeau resigns, the liberals bring in someone more popular that will effectively block Pierre Poppinfresh and hold onto a minority government.

Keeping PP from power isn't quite as imperative as Trump down south, but it's close. He's more Ron DeSantis than Trump.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I think my best case scenario is that Jagmeet Singh steps down, the NDP quickly select a leader that relates to the working class (something like a Tim Walz type) and they sweep the election on a workers rights grassroots push.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Best case scenario...yes. But likely...not very.

The only thing that the bankers and CEOs that keep the Liberal coffer's full, and the Oil & Gas Companies (and now Russia apparently) that keep the Cons coffer's full, is a mutual hatred for the working man and for unions.

It would take a herculean effort, and a charismatic leader that we haven't seen since Layton, to bring the NDP into Official Opposition range, let alone leading it all.

I agree that that would be the best possible version of Canada. But greed will never allow it to happen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, 0% chance this happens, but a man can dream, and vent online about our political situation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm still daydreaming of a Rachel Notley federal run

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

If the NDP and/or LPC only run candidates in ridings they're likely to win, that could help them elect both more NDP MPs and more LPC MPs, possibly keeping PP at bay. Of course that won't happen and we're gonna get vote split instead.

[–] Peppycito 2 points 3 weeks ago

PP is aiming to rewrite the charter and is gunning for a full slate of conservative premiers.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You can bet that when Kamala wins in the US the liberals will elect an indigenous female just because that’s what they do. As long as she’s competent no problem but if it’s a diversity hire, screw them.

I’m centre in general and either slightly left or slightly right depending on the issue. Rampant political correctness and nanny government pisses me off something fierce though.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah it's not like several by elections happened that were safe Liberal seats for decades and they lost disastrously.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think by-elections really gauge true opinion, they usually don't change the balance of power so it's about local candidates and protest votes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

No but when a party loses stronghold seats consistently it gives a good indication of where the wind is blowing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If only we conducted polls to guage public support of political parties. Alas, we can only count flags and bumper stickers.

[–] sbv 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If Trudeau wanted to read, he'd be very upset.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

He's from Papineau, MontrΓ©al so French only - Fuck Trudeau could mean people thinks he's sexy for all he knows.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

But Trudeau ultimately fell back on the idea that the next election will be a choice β€” and on the belief that Canadians haven't started to think about that choice yet.

Well the time to act is short, the Conservatives have been making the decision for many people - by brainwashing them with endless amounts of fossil-fuel funded ads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe the silent majority think SNC-Lavalin was a bigger deal than the Liberal party did, eh, Justin? Perhaps doing fuck-all about that and twisting out of the affair wasn't the winning strategy you though it was, and people are getting sick of some corrupt bullshit like this happening in every Liberal administration.