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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Wollen sie etwa behaupten, die Informationsübermittlungsgeschwindigkeit der deutschen Sprache sei unterdurchschnittlich? So eine Unverschämtheit!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hard to tell. Need something like "bits of information per syllable" to get at efficiency. Just eyeballing it, Vietnamese, English, and Cantonese seem most likely the most efficient.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Cantonese and Vietnamese make sense, as they're are both tonal languages (along with Mandarin, Thai, Punjabi, and Cherokee apparently). English wastes tones on communicating stress or question vs statement.

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[–] Apytele 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

English is pictured as such a smooth, almost perfectly normalized bell curve. On one hand it's such a versatile language that (largely due to colonialism) has undergone so much evolution and mixing with other languages that I can believe that. On the other hand it looks almost too normal. Odd.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Could be bias. But, I wonder if it could be because English has borrowed so much from other languages.

It’s also interesting that English and French look so similar in the graphs. Both, have been the de facto international language for a long time.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's long been suspected that Koreans are really fast with rhythm games and have high APM because of their language getting to the point faster.

[–] captain_aggravated 3 points 3 weeks ago

That was the issue I had with my elementary school spanish teacher. He spoke so fast that you just couldn't latch onto anything. It just sounded like DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDS aqui. DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDRS agostos.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Italian has a wildly different set than everyone else pretty much.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

So Thai is the current meta

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am curious about Arabic. I feel like it should be having the highest information rate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What makes you think that? I'm curious. I would've assumed something like Inuktitut (1 word conveys subject verb object tense ...) or something like toki pona (removes unused information) or maybe a highly analytical language like one of the Chinese languages.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I was comparing Arabic to other languages with the most speakers in the world. I have no idea what those languages you mentioned sound like. And I bet conlangs could be designed to fulfill such requirements as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Syllables can vary in length. Japanese has very short syllables while English has rather long ones. Counting phonemes would make more sense

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