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Wow this is awesome! Waydroid is insecure (outdated, rootful container), slow in development and only sandboxed on Fedora.
But that they take Newpipe... which is notoriously broken as Youtube tries to block everything...
Other apps are
Those are really unique on Android
it's worth noting that no actual security problems have been presented that haven't been dealt with, Sandboxing is available on any distro assuming the tools are made availible. Waydroid supports both apparmor and selinux, please report any security issues and tag the maintainers when doing so.
EDIT: you do need to set apparmor into enforce mode manually though.
I've been using FreeTube on desktop and it has worked great (with VPN)
Freetube uses Electron. The Flatpak is 240MB in size, the Newpipe + Translation layer is 40MB
It also doesnt bundle an often outdated version of Chromium, as found in Electron
But I tried Newpipe Flatpak and it was blocked totally. May have been because of my VPN though. Freetube had the same issues.
Grayjay is king at block circumventiom
Good to know, thanks. If the FreeTube flatpak is working for me, I might as well try the Newpipe one if it's that much better. I guess I just assumed that the translation layer would add CPU overhead.
I'll have to look into Grayjay. Is there a flatpak? I'm on immutable, so flatpak is much preferred.
Newpipe flatpak is totally broken XD
but it is more efficient, the translation layer is not an issue.
Actually, I am not sure what LocalSend and ConverterNOW use but those also look kinda like Android apps with GTK decorations.
Grayjay is android-only but a really nice cross-platform player. It is a framework with plugins, for nearly all streaming services... apart from Peertube??
I went from newpipe to tubular since it comes with sponsorblock, but iirc the backend is the same.
No VPN or anything, it works great.
Yes with no VPN it will work easier
It's most likely watching Youtube with your VPN that's broken then, not NewPipe. Youtube implemented Captchas for IPs that generate a lot of traffic/a lot of people are using. That's how they are trying to kill frontends like invidious that proxy the requests. NewPipe by default uses your own IP so it doesn't have that problem. If you use a VPN IP that a lot of others are using too, you'll get that same problem though.
Yes I assume this increases many issues.
This might also explain why sometimes the one, sometimes the other app (desktop vs phone) is broken
hey! don't be mean like that to my baby...
Newpipe works perfectly fine with only small issues sometimes. OrganicMaps is available on flathub
The OrganicMaps for "regular" Linux is very different from the Android app though. Completely different UI tech (Qt vs native Android widgets) and lacks important things like turn-by-turn navigation.
As the rule of thumb with FOSS projects, it has a horrible name
Time to rename it to one of the very creative FOSS project names
Kudos to devs though. This is awesome
Yeah it's not open source unless the title is a garbage fire.
You forgot -XNG
Interesting concept, if it gets good enough I hope ubuntu touch adopts this because I'm not a big fan of waydroid.
It's still really basic, but has loads of potential, Unforunately it has a hard requirement on GTK, otherwise there are a few things that would have been nice for greater AX86 in general, for instance they have mediacodec->vaapi support, something ax86 has... struggled with in the past. but we can't use it since we can't use gtk.
Ubuntu Touch can't use GTK? Why not?
what does Ubuntu touch have to do with this? I explicitly refered to the greater ax86 ecosystem.
You were responding to a comment talking about Ubuntu Touch. You then talking about "we" without any explaining of who you meant made me assume you meant Ubuntu Touch users.
Android apps on flathub will be lovely.
How is ATL's architecture different than Waydroid's?
I guess it's running a free ART implémentation? As Android runs on Linux there's at least no kernel translation layer to do
finally a non electron yt client, i also have another question does sober use the same method.
It didn't work on my Arch (btw) nor Fedora
Someone on HN earlier today mentioned they would fix the Arch issues
Does anyone know if this is the same way Sober is running the port of Roblox?
No, it's the same way as how mcpe-launcher works with android minecraft
Wow
really buggy on fedora kinoite
Well yes, it's still early days and very much WIP. But the fact it works at all is amazing and shows what can be done with more work.
feel you, brother
I wonder how does it work? New pipe is originally a portarit application for Android.
It translates the Android API to Linux desktop-compatible calls, just like Wine does for Windows apps.
Newpipe works great on tablets too, a lot of Android apps have a landscape mode
It won't show a file picker for importing subscriptions so rip