So it isn't working and is just more tax dollars wasted on the security theater? Cool.
this post was submitted on 24 Oct 2024
422 points (98.8% liked)
Technology
60520 readers
4064 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
but falsely alerted more than 100 times
oh, it's working
AI powered Melanin detector
Trust me bro it aint raycist... Check these stats 🤡
Gotta get that probable cause to search for weed.
Recreational weed has been legal in NY for years
Not if there is a federal agent. It is legal here in NM but the feds are constantly seizing pot because it is not legal at a federal level.
It's gonna be fun when it's legal in all 50 states at the state level, but still illegal federally.
Wait, did I say fun? I meant bullshit. It's going to be bullshit.
That is up to the state's attorney general whether to go after drug offense or not
I guess tell that to the federal agents seizing legal cannabis.
I don't think federal agents are using these scanners to find people carrying weed
Sorry, just replace weed with crack.
They wanted a subway gun crime deterrent, they just found it was much easier to build a subway deterrent.
Earlier this year, investors filed a class-action lawsuit, accusing company executives of overstating the devices’ capabilities and claiming that “Evolv does not reliably detect knives or guns.”
It’s fraud. The company knows it’s unreliable and the investors know it’s unreliable, I wonder why NYC is still going to expand the trial run? 🤔
[Mayor] Adams has touted the Massachusetts-based company since taking office in 2022.
They found a scam to replace stop & frisk.
To be fair, he’s also a former cop. He’s also under indictment for fraud so take that for what it’s worth
TSA... security theater for the low, low price to taxpayer of $11.2 BILLION dollars
No, no. We just need to keep using it! It just needs a bigger sample. Surely, we'll find a weapon, eventually!
/s
It's the TSA for the subway!
I dunno, does the scanner grope you and steal stuff from your baggage?
If your dildo looks remotely like a gun, it might come after you.
Well now I feel a fool because I bought a gun-shaped dildo so it would draw less attention. I thought this was America!
Happiness is a warm gun?
Temperature is an important aspect of mouth feel.
Well I don't want it to come before me!
Not exactly, no. From other comments, it also have an incredibly high false positive rate, so it's negative security.
In total, there were 118 false positives — a rate of 4.29%.
Earlier this year, investors filed a class-action lawsuit, accusing company executives of overstating the devices’ capabilities and claiming that “Evolv does not reliably detect knives or guns.”
I mean, in terms of performance, I'd be more concerned about the false positive rate than the false negative rate, given the context. Like, if you miss a gun, whatever. That's at worst just the status quo, which has been working. Some money gets wasted on the machine. But if you are incorrectly stopping more than 1 in 25 New Yorkers from getting on their train, and apply that to all subway riders, that sounds like a monumental mess.
With how trigger happy police are, the false positives would lead to more deaths than they prevent. And police would claim it's justified because the machine told them so.
Facial recognition confirmed he was a criminal and the scanner confirmed he had a gun! Of course we opened fire instantly. How could we have known it was just some guy with a water bottle?
We used advanced colorimetry to determine he was a criminal!
False positives are fine because they only happen to poors.
"Not Hotdog"
The article links an article from March '24 talking about the introduction of these devices that contains this part:
The scanner that Adams and police officials introduced during Thursday’s news conference in a lower Manhattan station came from Evolv, a publicly traded company that has been accused of doctoring the results of software testing to make its scanners appear more effective than they are.
So they could never be trusted but were still allowed to proceed.
Look, we can either look at facts and check the claims of that company that we're going to invest a lot of money into, or we can accept their bribe and move on. It's all about efficiency.
I saw a dude jogging up the stairs and his gun fell out of his hoody sweats. He looked at it for a second and the picked it up and put it on his hoody like it was his phone.
5/7 best subway exit ever.
I know the reference, and I'mma let you finnish, but 5/7, bruh that's a gucci gun.
And people say New York isn’t safe.