King don't come
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With the exception of indy games if they're priced in a way I'm happy to take a punt, I only buy games after putting a few hours into the pirate copy. With the near extinction of demos and amount of bs out there over the last decade plus this became my only way of buying. It's why I bought the first KCD back in the day.
Without a copy to evaluate, I'm happy to wait for it to be cracked, and then happy to wait for the DRM to be removed before purchasing to avoid any related performance issues. It's a shame, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over it..
Demos have been making a comeback for awhile. You'd be surprised how many games have a demo, Indy and AAA.
I skipped buying Death Loop despite a decent sale on steam just yesterday because of denuvo.
It also made me more glad I just dropped Xbox game pass because that client didn't show it used it at all (or if it did, I didn't notice it), and it was on my wishlist because I had been playing it via game pass.
I wonder how many sales publishers leave on the table because of denuvo (both from people boycotting denuvo and from the lack of free advertising piracy gives) vs how many sales it generates because someone couldn't pirate a game instead of buying it.
Like my own experience with this is when I was playing pirated games, I picked games based on availability of a pirated version. If there was a specific game I wanted to play, I might have looked for it, but failing to find it wouldn't have meant I was headed to the store for it.
I later bought some of my favorite games after playing the pirated version. Great games made me want to give the devs money. Plus, people tend to talk about games they love, and others who hear about it might not go looking for a free version.
So all that makes me wonder if those who use denuvo are just paying extra for something that just hurts their sales instead of helping.
They MBA types treat it as something you just do these days. It protects the game from being pirated in those first few critical weeks of sale. Then they remove it as a gesture of goodwill and the anti-denuvo fans come back and buy the game anyway.
I don't really understand your gripe with gamepass here. Personally I'm extremely glad I got to try Deathloop through gamepass because I found out it was just another generic ass FPS that I didn't want to buy.
Hmm I've been enjoying deathloop. Tbh though I've not done any gaming for maybe twenty years so it doesn't seem very generic to me. I like the colours and the feel of it.
I skipped buying Death Loop despite a decent sale on steam just yesterday because of denuvo.
Death Loop has Denuvo? I remember pirating that about a year ago.
I'll just wait for it to show up DRM-free on GOG at a discount ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They're not getting any of my money if they keep Denuvo. As always, I'll just play something else.
Does that mean proton will not work?
No, denuvo works with proton
Imagine still pre-ordering games in 2024
Looks up from Shadow Generations Yeah the censorship of the Sonic portion sucks, but that's not what I'm here for, that's what I was here for in 2010. Shadow 2 bahbee!
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addendum: Denuvo is sick of “toxicity,” says people only hate it because it works
I hate it because it's just a sign of disrespect of the publisher towards the legitimate customers. Guess who has a better experience when the DRM goes to shit or slows down the game? Those who didn't pay.
I just won't be part of the first customers, I'll wait for the game to be cleaned up of this bs.
If driving away sales counts as "it works", then good for them.
If people only hated it because it works, paying customers wouldn't be cancelling their preorders!
That's the key here. People who were willing to pre-pay for the game ahead of time are clearly not the target of the DRM, and yet they're the ones choosing to cancel their purchase. It's not pirates complaining because they want to play the game for free, it's people who were looking forward to buying the game.
I learned it the hard way by buying Shadow of the Tomb Raider after pirating and liking it, the same PC ran the legit version like shit, I bet they only have nasa PCs over there to test the DRM on.
People are voting with their wallets. They were willing to buy it. But this effects them and made the game no longer worth it. Pirates will pirate regardless. But you just lost some of the genuine customers by effecting them, pirates will have a "better" version.
I won't lie and say this is what's going to stop me from buying the game, because my computer not being able to run it was going to stop me from buying the game. So symbolically I'm with them I guess.
Maybe by the time you update, they'll have removed Denuvo and you'll have the best of both worlds.
The mistake was pre-ordering in the first place
While I agree, we shouldn't criticize people for learning and changing for the better.
And it does send a signal.
We've had decades of pre-order shenanigans, you'd think every gamer and their mother would know to avoid them by now.
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I'm still gonna play it. This just changes whether I pay for it or not.
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Will wait for crack then 👍
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