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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rise of sex in TV series 📈

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Incline if use of shades of greys in diagrams instead of easily identifiable colours: up 500%

[–] stringere 9 points 2 days ago

46 Shades of Grey Short

[–] [email protected] 84 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What bothers me more is that violence gets a PG rating here, sex gets an X rating. How in the world is it more inappropriate for kids to see people naked than for them to watch someone hack someone else to death? The graphic violence should get a more restricted rating than on screen sex.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

When your nation always needs to be at war, it's helps to repress sexuality and normalize violence. This isn't so much a conspiracy theory, but an observation of an emergence behavior that reinforces itself.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No wonder, American puritanism is at a record high.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Nah if you want to watch porn you can just watch porn.

Access to adult content is never been easier so we don't need half-assed versions in our film.

also, there's some selection bias as the "top X grossing films" has included more and more childrens films over time as adult consumption of all content has moved out of the theatre and to the internet.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

No, it's not. Has everything to do with sex scenes not adding anything of value to a film.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Might have something to do with movies catering more heavily to "Family" audiences (the functional death of the R-rate film in theaters) while TV shows cater more heavily to childless adults.

We've literally coined the term "sexpository" to justify injecting gratuitous naked time into our 8-12 hour prestige TV shows. We've also made these sex scenes a lot gayer, which rubs the Family Friendly crowd the wrong way but plays great with the 20-30 somethings who are all on board with it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I think this is it. Most movies are trying to avoid an R rating and slide into PG-13, because PG-13 movies generally make a lot more money than R-rated ones because the audience is greater.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Let's make a movie about the creator of the nuclear bomb! We can explore the moral implications, the political drama of communists in the USA during and after WW2, the creations of Los Alamos, the interesting science of...

Random corporate head: "Let's have a sex scene! That will make things interesting!"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Now I am become death, the destroyer of...... Ooo... titties!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I wonder how much of this correlates with the rise of intimacy coordinators. I’m sure there are productions that think it’s not worth the investment so they just scrap the scene and have it take place off camera etc.

And perhaps a rise in actors not wanting to have their stuff on the internet forever now (even more so with the rise of AI training)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I wonder how much of this is because Disney owns everything.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think it correlates more strongly to the prevalence of pornography. Mainstream movie scenes look fake and contrived, because they are. As unrealistic as pornography is, that is actually a dick, and it is actually going in a vagina.

When your mainstream movie sex scene is going to be compared (unfavorably) to a scene of two people actually fucking, why bother even shooting it?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I think this only happens because sex is as fake as most other emotions in today's movies.

I also hate how everything is glossy, even character faces. Even fear, blood and shit are glossy.

FFS, old Hollywood with exceptionally cute actors on main roles still would have a bit of that noble mess around, chaotic here and there and in conversations. Good 3d artists know that you need some chaos in everything distinguishable in your scenes or they will look fake.

It's rather that fake-looking sex scenes in movies don't feel like art, they feel like porn without satisfaction. So nobody bothers.

While fixing that culture would require changing the environment around film making. You know, the one forming the demand for bore and glossiness.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Gotta maximize the target market on everything to get the most clicks and all. It's why anything that comes out now is so good damn bland.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

Sex scenes in movies are a combination of this weird shameful "I want to show I'm having sex but I can't actually show it" and "It's almost like porn if you removed all the porn."

You're really stuck in a pointless awkward middle ground that satisfies nobody. And 95% of the time it isn't even plot relevant so you're just wasting time. The decline basically just coincides with internet access to the masses.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Yes, but why? Sex is an important part of human life and relationships, it influences people's behaviour and decisions, yet it's being depicted less and less and often not in a satisfying way. So why doesn't it get depicted in a meaningful and plot relevant way? A good recent example that it can be done is The Poor Things (sexuality is one of the main topics there and is depicted and talked about very openly).

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[–] weker01 62 points 3 days ago (4 children)

That sex is even considered a vice on the same level as drugs and violence is fucking bonkers.

This graph alone gives legitimacy to this idea. Nudity and sex are completely normal (and necessary) things in life. That something that is needed for everyone reading this to exist being labeled as a vice like violence and drugs is actually disgusting IMHO.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

F in chat.

...because it's not in the movie.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

as an asexual person i find other people's opinions on this interesting. the sex scenes do nothing for me and i'm usually just waiting for them to end but i understand my circumstances are not common. i can only assume that someone who is into sex gets something out of sex scenes, otherwise they wouldn't exist.

what i don't understand is the demonizing of sex scenes in movies. like does everyone only watch movies with their parents/kids? i don't like sex scenes due to my asexuality and i'm glad that there are few of them because this cultural shift benefits me specifically (who has never been in the target demographic) in a roundabout way. but i wouldn't say they are all gross/unnecessary/graphic/etc as a blanket statement like i see people in this thread and other places online say. art doesn't need to be for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

HuH, I feel like I’m in a minority at least in this thread. I’m definitely interested in the sex scenes. It doesn’t matter how easy it is to find porn, because that’s not in universe nor even “how far” they go on screen since things can be implied. A movie with sexual tension, progressing toward sex is interesting, and external porn is irrelevant to that plot.

Of course that assumes it fits the movie somehow. I definitely agree some sex scenes were just inserted for the prurient interest and really shouldn’t be there. Then again, there are bad films saved only by random appearances of boobs

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

As a sexual person sex scenes do nothing to me either and feel like time lost for the actual plot.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Because the world shifted to the right a bunch more regarding sexual content… fucking websites now want you to show your ID in some states to view porn.

I think acclaimed director Paul Verhoeven put it best when he called our country a land full of gleefully violent prudes when people freaked out about his use of sexuality, nudity and people being comfortable naked around members of the opposite sex.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 4 days ago (6 children)

When nudity/sexuality is shown artistically or actually has some depth or place in the story being told, I enjoy it, but 90% of that hollywood shit is hot garbage and I think a lot of folks feel the same.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Early 2000s were full of horny teen films.

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[–] freeman 27 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's due to easier accessibility to porn. It both reduces demand for the relatively timid sex scenes in films and also reduces their edginess/shock value.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but I think sex scenes don't need any shock value or compete with porn. They can depict the many ways sex influences people irl.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Still got a pretty good body count, though. Can’t have a sex scene, but films of virtually non -stop violence is cool.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 days ago (32 children)

My brain just go ..... when random awkward 30 second sex scene happens out of nowhere or they just start making out, kissing and moaning loudly then suddenly we are in the next scene and everything is back to normal. Why?

Unless the film is sexual in nature random full frontal nudity, stray tits, stray ass, visible privates always makes me so confused.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sex scenes were usually forced in by people screaming sex sells. These days there are different ways to see breasts than going to a cinema.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tv shows took the sex thing

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So sex is a vice now or just when its in a film?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

It’s long been treated as a vice when practiced outside marriage. I disagree with that but it’s a thing

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All the colors in the fucking universe and they pick three shades of gray.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 days ago (10 children)

i think it was prevalent before the interwebs because there was largely few places to get porn, and throwing it in a movie meant more eyeballs.

as porn became immediately available in other forms (mostly the internet), the unnecessary scenes could be eliminated as a waste of time and a detraction from plots. they ceased being a reason to draw eyeballs.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

You telling me this wasn't relevant to the plot?

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