The numbers in this image aren't real.
Also, why would you assume that those people voting for Stein would have preferred Clinton over Trump?
this post was submitted on 19 Oct 2024
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Picture a situation where various political parties vie to unseat the Republicans. With more representative electoral systems, voters could select their preferred candidates, while still counting their vote against the Republican party even if their choice doesn’t win, all without the spoiler effect. Since voting methods are set at the state level, we don’t need to wait for federal reforms; some states have already enacted electoral changes. For instance, Alaska recently chose a more moderate conservative over Sarah Palin due to Ranked Choice voting.
Who would oppose having multiple opportunities to diminish Republican power? The Democratic Party would. In blue states, they could replace First Past The Post voting with a system that eliminates the spoiler effect. Yet, year after year, election after election, Democrats remain inactive on passing state level electoral reform in the states they control.
Republicans are moving to protect FPTP voting in red states. Why do the democrats want to use the voting system republicans prefer?
Its not that democrats dont know about the flaws in the voting system either. Just mention voting for a third party to any Democrat, and they’ll readily acknowledge the weaknesses of the voting system. Comments about the Green Party here will further illustrate their understanding of this issue.
If democrats understanding the problem, yet refuse to fix it, can only mean one thing. The Democrats prefer the country balancing over a fire pit of fascism rather than truly competing for our votes. They would rather this country be lost to authoritarianism then to play on a even playing field.
Party over country at all costs.
Stein wasn't even the only third party candidate stealing votes. I voted for Gary Johnson with the Libertarian party as a "protest vote". Glancing at national results, he had almost three times as many votes as Stein did.
I was 100% the moron this meme is targeted towards. I voted for Harris yesterday.
But you aren’t a moron if you learned from your mistakes. It means the opposite.
I wish we had ranked choice voting. Then these protest votes would still work and not screw with the system so bad and we could fight the stranglehold of the two party system.
My state is trying to constitutionally ban the use of ranked choice systems 🫠 fingers crossed the muppets just drew enough awareness to implement it after we reject this amendment
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anyone who acknowledges and leans from mistakes is the smartest of the smart. the dumb ones double down and repeat mistakes no matter what evidence is presented to them.
thank you for admitting and learning from your mistake. I wish everyone was like you.
Hey good on you for being open to change your stance. So many people these days cant.
I was that moron too in 2016.
Never again.
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I voted for Harris yesterday, and I’ll be voting for Harris again tomorrow. Just kidding. Turns out the dead person whose identity I stole wasn’t registered to vote. 😞
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Also, the 2000 Presidential election results in Florida:
That’s the official count, but we’ll never know what the actual count was. A bunch of people who “voted” for Nader were trying to vote for Gore but got screwed over by the format of the ballot.
My brother is voting for Jill Stein to "send a message to the Democrats" that they can't automatically rely on liberal votes. He voted for Nader in 2000 to "send a message to the Democrats" that they can't automatically rely on liberal votes. When I mention the 24-year gap here his response is "what's your point?"
I voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 and will never make that mistake again.
Not to worry, Nader hasn't been a candidate in a long time. Good luck out there!
Ah yes, the true stolen election. But Al Gore conceded, even though it really was too close to call.
Since all 'electoral votes' go to the winner in the US, why do they even bother mentioning it? Its seems entirely vestigial
US states have the option of choosing to distribute votes proportionally.
They even have the choice to let electors pick whatever they want
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a vote for stein is a vote for trump, both of which are a vote for poo-tin
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I didn't actually realize the numbers were that high for her... Ffs.
They know what they're doing. The elections in swing states are always down to razor margins. The right spoiler is almost a guaranteed win for the opponent :/
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So early voting has started in some states. Get out and vote people