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“He’s doing a good job,” Trump saidabout the Israeli leader. “Biden is trying to hold him back, just so you understand, Biden is more superior to the VP. He’s trying to hold him back, and he probably should be doing the opposite, actually. I’m glad that Netanyahu decided to do what he had to do, but it’s moving along pretty good.”

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 day ago (2 children)

it’s quite different from Trump’s bombastic rhetoric: He has repeatedly said that Israel has to “finish the job.” The former president’s Friday comments appear to be an attempt to paint Biden, and by extension, Harris, as being less supportive of Israel than him

Trump wants genocide escalated and completed on a faster timetable. If you don’t think that includes the West Bank in the long-term plan, you’re being naive.

Biden is trying to get a ceasefire deal from a madman. Harris needs to win the election and can’t if Israel turns against her. Trump actively wants to commit accelerated genocide on Palestinians.

Anyone who is pro-Palestinian and is thinking about voting for Trump needs to be aware of the long-term consequences.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

And you protester type think Trump's going to bring peace to Gaza?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This dumb fuck is gaining in the polls.

I just…can’t anymore

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Keep in mind that the polls right now are also being flooded with right wing aligned groups

https://flood-watch.vercel.app/

[–] vaultdweller013 10 points 1 day ago

Yeah, polls much like any mathematics based discipline are susceptible to garbage in garbage out. You can have the perfect model but if the raw data put into it is shit then all youll get out of it is shit.

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[–] Lucidlethargy 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (30 children)

Trump wants, and largely has, the "Nuke 'em all and let God sort 'em out!" vote.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And yet, if comments on this site are to be believed, he's still also getting the, "We refuse to vote Democrat because we're against the genocide!" crowd (sorry guys, but not voting or voting third party is a vote for Trump. You cannot escape it).

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (36 children)

From a purely strategic perspective, is this wise of Trump?

My impression is that even many American Jewish people don't like Netanyahu. And he doesn't need to remind anti-Harris protest voters that he's even more anti Palestine. Many MAGA diehards don't even like Netanyahu.

Like... who is he appealing to? Older Republicans, I guess, who remember Israel's early days?

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He's appealing to people that hate Muslims.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And people who think the rapture starts with a holy war in Jerusalem.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

"He's doing a good job,"

thanks, Hitler

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Honestly, is there anyone alive today with more blood on their hands than Benjamin Netanyahu?

[–] SapphironZA 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Assad is right up there. 500k-600k in the last 10 years in Syria.

That's about the same yearly average as Israel in Gaza (so far) but for 10+ years ongoing.

But I expect the humanitarian crisis to result in the death rate in Gaza to increase unless the US grows a pair.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

The death rate has already gone way down as Israel shifted from assault to low intensity warfare in Gaza. Look at these numbers from the UN in June: https://www.ochaopt.org/content/reported-impact-snapshot-gaza-strip-19-june-2024

Notice the curve flattening? According to Al Jazeera the death toll is at 42,500 now. So 5 months to get to 30K (assault phase). Then 7 months to get from 30K to ~43K (low intensity phase). So it's a rate of less than 2K per month now. At the present rate, the Israel-Hamas war would have to go on for over 23 years to get to the level of casualties from the Syrian civil war.

Yahya Sinwar was just killed because he had to go above ground with only two guards. Do you really think Hamas is going to hold out for 23 years? Come on, you're smarter than this.

Sorry but the numbers just don't fit the genocide narrative that people here can't let go of. If you're starting from genocide being the absolute truth, then you're incentivized to ignore a lot of facts and start saying things that don't make a lot of sense to conform to a narrative.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's sad to say, but yes. Gaza is a horrific tragedy, but it is an admittedly small corner of the world.

The Palestinian health ministry has reported 40,000+ Palestinian dead. Meanwhile, George W. Bush is responsible for the deaths of over a million Iraqis following his completely unnecessary invasion of Iraq. He's still kicking, probably using some of that blood on his hands for the painting he does now.

Putin is also pulling comparable numbers as Bibi in Ukraine, though that conflict has been going on for a little bit longer than the one in Gaza. But that's also not counting how many of his own men he sent to their deaths, which is estimated to be over 100,000.

Henry Kissinger would also be on this list but thankfully it's been almost a year since his long-awaited demise.

And that's really only looking at conflict. Not factoring in others who are responsible for large-scale humanitarian crises that may end up killing many more people just from disease or starvation.

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