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Explosions heard in Dzhankoy, air raid siren in Sevastopol, Crimean Bridge closed

Monitoring channels write about the missile threat and the work of air defense. The Dzhankoy checkpoint is closed. There is a smoke screen over the Crimean Bridge.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 minutes ago

C'MON BABY! FUCK THAT BRIDGE UP!!!!!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Don't ships laden with nitrite regularly go from the Azov sea to the black sea?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I want to see that bridge annihilated

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Man... I am surprised it hasn't happened yet.

You would think Ukraine has the tools and ability to do it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 minutes ago

I think they organised other routes for logistics so it became less strategically important than it was earlier in the war.

Still though....I really want to see it gone. It's a nasty symbol.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

It's not for a lack of trying, but they have prioritised other things. But the more it seems as a prize target, the more likely it'll get dropped because damaging Putin's domestic reputation is paramount.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

So that's a bridge. They can get the coordinates very simply just from google maps. Ukraine jas access to modern western weapons which I assume are gps-guided. How effective really is a smoke screen unless Russia is able to jam gps signals over a 19km long bridge?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Missiles can only do so much damage to a large structure like this bridge. IIRC, the Ukrainians have tried those before.

Even the famous truck full of explosives weakened the bridge, but it didn't go down.

It would take an absolutely huge amount of explosives to take the bridge down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Not really, it needs something very heavy moving very fast to hammer a few pylons 3- 4 pylons out from shore.

Infrastructure is surprisingly weak to kinetic impacts applied in the wrong direction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Storm shadow has optical terminal guidance as far as I know

[–] ironhydroxide 8 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Problem is Ukraine actually wants to not injure civilians unnecessarily.

Sure they could just launch whatever to the bridge and fuck it up. But without being able to at least reasonably claim to confirm they minimized civilian casualties, it's a big risk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

You’re forgetting that Ukraine has successfully attacked the bridge twice already.

In October 2022 a bomb on a truck detonated, causing 2 spans to collapse and killing 5.

In July 2023 two sea drones targeted the bridge & killed 2 & injured 1. The two killed were a husband & wife. The injured one was their child.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 minutes ago (1 children)

In July 2023 two sea drones targeted the bridge & killed 2 & injured 1. The two killed were a husband & wife. The injured one was their child.

Traveling into a warzone.. I mean yeah it sucks but mentioning they are a family is irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago

The post I was responding to claimed the Ukrainians were trying to avoid civilian casualties. This clearly demonstrates that civilian casualties were involved.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

If Russian has closed the bridge, then Ukraine should be good to go now, right? One drone with thermal imaging to confirm there's no remaining vehicles on the bridge, then it's bombs-away.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

yes Russia can jam GPS signals over large areas. Yes theres other methods in play.