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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/14057643

Maybe EVs are not a comprehensive climate solution??

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago

How does the users' EV carbon footprint compare to the pre-EV one? A change from say 80th percentile to 60th is still above average, but an improvement nevertheless.

[–] lurch 26 points 3 days ago

don't let big oil trick you into forgetting that companies are the real culprit

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld 27 points 3 days ago

Wealthier people tend to have bigger carbon footprints because they have bigger homes, travel more, can afford more goods, etc.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

Better they drive an EV than a huge gas guzzler.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Well, duh. If you change nothing about your lifestyle except adding an EV to your fleet, you're not helping the climate.
We can't produce and consume our way out of this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

You are helping the climate because the EV is better than the ICE you would have used instead. It is a baby step, but given that humans will object to changing their lifestyle a very useful one. We need lots of other options for those rich to improve their climate footprint. (great transit would be better, but it needs to be good enough that they decide that don't need a car - not the transit for those who after 5 DWIs can't get someone else to drive them which is what a lot of rich get)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Interesting. Though I'd love to see more studies on this and especially ones comparing countries. I know that in Belgium it seems many EV owners also own solar panels and are at least more likely to also have batteries. And the rich people can actually afford to build more climate neutral houses with heat pumps. (As heat pumps here are more expensive than heating with gas which is less efficient)

Apart from that I always figured ev's are a great solution to local pollution: cars driving through streets, idling through intersections etc. Less so for global pollution though across their life they should still be better I thought.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Rich people eat more animal products, live in large single family homes and travel a lot so they need to go plant based, buy a condo instead of a mansion and fly less.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Wealthier? Not from what I’ve seen.