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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm planning to get a handheld gaming computer and install one of the open source Linux gaming distros on it, like ChimeraOS or Bazzite

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

Just skip that step and get the deck. It's the best handheld anyway.

[–] [email protected] 112 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Valve is proving that LOTS of people would use Linux if it came in convenient preinstalled packaging.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

As someone who has recently begun dipping in to Linux and trying to figure it all out, I agree with this.

I feel like if Samsung or someone embraced Linux in the way Apple have macOS, it could very easily become a serious contender to Windows. But I guess no one could trust Samsung to not fuck it all up and make it a proprietary fork that would end up having nothing to do with Linux.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Basically like they (and Google) have handled phones. "Wow look, a majority of the OS work is done for us! Sooo if we just...overlay it all with proprietary blobs and un-removable software and locked bootloaders and..."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck Samsung but ValveOS (something aimed at the average user) would be neat to see. At least until Valve goes full on 'LET'S BE FUCKING EVIL!'

[–] andrew_bidlaw 8 points 2 hours ago

Darth Gaben: To verify your identity, say the gamer word out loud with the hard R explicitly pronounced. If you'd fail to do this check every half an hour (offline included), the VAC ban would follow. I don't make rules, hahaha, no, I make them up as we speak.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Valve is doing this? Not Android since 2008?

Heck we know people don't give a shit what's under the covers since at least the switch between Windows 98 and 2000/XP, the latter being a very different OS. It could have been BSD or Linux and people wouldn't have bat an eye if the start menu looked the same and Word, Corel Draw, Photoshop and AutoCAD worked.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Android is not (really) a desktop OS. Devices with preconfigured locked-up Linux installations have been around way before that, mainly networking equipment.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago

SteamOS is not locked, and at any point can can be set to desktop mode and used as one. Unlike android which has no compatibility with other Linux desktop apps without a fair bit of tinkering to get working.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I take it you've never used a steam deck

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Indeed. I'd say majority of people nowadays need just one thing from their computer - working web browser. Mail, office suite, audio and video consumption, even graphic suite (e.g. photopea) is available, and widely adopted, in browser. And browsers behavesbvirtually the same whether on Windows or Linux, so yeah, put person in front of nicely packed Linux PC and chances are there won't be many issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

That would be a Chromebook.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

One could make a similar argument with Google (Android/ChromeOS).

[–] [email protected] 91 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

While I'll always be wary of corporations, Valve seems to be maintaining an overall good relationship with the FOSS community (for the time being).

[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

they aren't publicly traded so that's probably part of the reason.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

I’d bet dollars to donuts that’s exactly the reason. And the minute they start goin public, the enshittification will occur.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 hours ago

Maybe I'm wrong but I've got the horrible feeling that once Gabe dies the enshittification begins.

[–] Kecessa 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I mean, the second someone is a billionaire from the business they run, the enshitifaction has begun because that money comes from somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Gabe has been a billionaire a while now. Like $9.5B net worth with a yacht collection.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Valve hasn't sued anyone to give them a portion of their income forever. Valve also doesn't pursue anti consumer goals on daily basis. Not that it has never done anything wrong but it has done enough good to be on my good side as little as it means

[–] Kecessa -1 points 1 hour ago

All companies making enough profit to make someone a billionaire is anti consumer.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

At one point Apple, Google, etc. were not evil... but yeah, enjoy the moment for sure.:-)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

But they are/were publicly traded.

Being publicly traded inherently means you need to show growth every 3 months or your shares are worthless. Cue the enshittification and squeezing pennies from every revenue stream possible.

That's the sole reason Valve hasn't gone down that path is its status in this regard.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

That is a VERY good point. Let's hope it remains that way. Reddit was private once too.

[–] felykiosa 7 points 4 hours ago

There is a difference with valve ,that's that the company is private.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Microsoft is the best advertising for Linux out there

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Seriously though for the first time I am seeing long time Microsoft admins start to complain

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

You haven't been looking in the right places then, I've been seeing it since I started working in IT nearly a decade ago.

It has definitely gotten crappier since I started though.


(Microsoft Admin whining incoming)

More and more snags related to implementation details of ancient functionality that still exists under the hood of their all new shiny crap, but isn't actually documented properly anywhere anymore because rolling out new stuff is more important than finishing documentation on core sysadmin tools multiple years old.

They got rid of all training courses, certs, and learning material for all their on premise stuff in order to push cloud only setups years ago. They are just barely starting to backtrack that, so there's a massive gap in official documentation.

Thank god my team has enough requisite greybeards to bridge the gap and train me on what Microsoft wants to pretend isn't still in widespread use.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

Me using windows on the steam deck to really make things confusing