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I am shocked. Shocked! /s

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Hmm why cant they move to a pre hosted mastodon server

[–] [email protected] 9 points 18 hours ago

This is too much information being processed at a time to me! πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does it matter that they don't run an instance?

As long as they have accounts and keep them up to date, that is the main thing.

How many open source projects actually run and moderate instances?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

The effectiveness of the internet as a public resource depends upon interoperability (protocols, data formats, content), innovation and decentralized participation worldwide.

- Mozilla Manifesto, Principle 6, emphasis mine

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

This sucks (Was it really costing much money to run?) but as long as Firefox continues to work with full-flavor ublock I'm happy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

did an AI become their CEO by now? dumb moz foundation.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

Weird that they called it a β€œBeta”, like running a chat server you didn’t code is somehow an experiment. Just say you couldn’t be arsed running it anymore.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guess hating Mozilla is very much in fashion. The tech chatterati have made it so.

They’ll move on, as they always do. I just hope Firefox is still here.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago

Critiquing Mozilla when they make mistakes is not the same as hating them. It is healthy to keep these organizations accountable

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

The issue is all signs point to them pivoting to AI and ad driven nonsense - they'll move on, but if the product goes to shit so will I. The rest is noise.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 day ago (19 children)

@dantheclamman

I am definitely starting to hate #Mozilla.

As a remark: I have always been fine with their deal with Pocket and having Google as their default search engine. In the end, there are bills to be paid.

Until I learned that e.g. Mozilla Corporation's CEO is on a multi-million dollar salary, and they're hiring ai and ad people.

Not OK for an entity where many highly skilled people code for free.

It's not what users want the cash to be spent on.

Leaving the Fedi is the final drop

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I think you might be overestimating how much code is contributed by unpaid volunteers...

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Just make a good browser.. Thats all I care about from mozilla.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Same,i wish they can make their browser fast and actually private since gecko is slower then chromium (and maybe webkit?) its even worse on windows

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

with how many singular developers managed to do it based on Firefox when Mozilla couldn't pull their shit together, idk why anyone would still be holding their breath. just switch to a competent fork.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

most forks still use the firefox base

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Mozilla 2012: We're winning the browser war and saving the web. You're welcome.

Mozilla 2017: Competing with Chrome is hard. What if we break all existing extensions and never let people replace them all?

Mozilla 2021: Through inclusiveness and the power of positive thinking we will facilitate leadership towards in-depth studies of what we can do to improve social media.

Mozilla 2024: Running a small mastodon instance is just too hard, we give up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Mozilla 2017: Competing with Chrome is hard. What if we break all existing extensions and never let people replace them all?

This is the one that broke my back. Understandable that XPCOM extensions had to go, but leaving nothing to replace them, and then going on to push their trash UI redesigns without giving us any recourse to change them back - that was just unforgivable.

Then again, that was still well before they started pushing spyware in their own browser, so in retrospect, those were very quaint times!

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just a little comment on 2021: It seems disingenuous, from their perspective. Steve Teixeira, In a lawsuit, is claiming that not only did Mozilla try to get him to fire employees who were disproportionately minorities, but they were within a group that was producing a profit for Mozilla.

In other words, Mozilla might have been preaching inclusivity publicly while practicing exclusivity privately.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can we all just use a "bad browser" that isn't "as good" as these exploitative mainstream browsers by specifically giving up on websites that require a browser that exploits us? We shouldn't need to be exploited.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's what I do!

Website don't work? I immediately leave and don't think about it ever again

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah! Websites be too needy.

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