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I am shocked. Shocked! /s

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Just make a good browser.. Thats all I care about from mozilla.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 31 minutes ago

How about some A.I. bullshit in your browser?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Same,i wish they can make their browser fast and actually private since gecko is slower then chromium (and maybe webkit?) its even worse on windows

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

with how many singular developers managed to do it based on Firefox when Mozilla couldn't pull their shit together, idk why anyone would still be holding their breath. just switch to a competent fork.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

most forks still use the firefox base

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that's what's i said, but they're all better functioning than firefox

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But without the base they can't operate

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

but there is a base, and it isn't good. the forks are. you said you want a good browser. they're not making it. the forks are good. idk what you're arguing about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Most forks take an ESR version and build on top of that. Who is gonna make that ESR base?

You're saying the equivalent of 'I don't care about the Linux kernel cause Ubuntu is better and everyone should use that' of arguments.

Not saying you are literally saying ^

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

have I said anywhere that Firefox should cease to exist or Mozilla shouldn't do security patches or whatever because i thought we were talking about having a good browser experience.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago

Oooh.. Yeah they do provide better OOTB experiences. I don't even use them and I know that. Sorry.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I understand that they need to diversify so that they're not so dependent on Google's default search engine money. I don't know how they should do that.

But I'm not sure what they've been doing has been all that good of an idea.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

They're 80% dependent on google there is no choice. Mozilla's behaviour since they got the google deal was the begining of the end. I honestly believe that due to Mozilla's current leadership it would be best for open source developers to all refocus on the ladybird project. I don't have any affiliation to that project and I understand how huge of an undertaking it is to build a web engine from scratch but the gecko engine is polluted by the Mozilla's execs and by extension Google.

To make it clear Google controls Firefox by, in practice, owning an 80% share of Mozilla.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

well paying execs multimillion dollar salaries aint helping thats for sure!

Also. What's the point of their mastodon server? It's cool but so what

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

make their browser engine useable for 3rd parties and sell support, make an electron-like product and add premium features… there are so many browser-based products that people sell, and owning 1 of the only viable browser engines should be huge… the fact that firefox is still only barely able to be embedded is a travesty

it’d be especially valuable if they made a premium electron product that provided security/privacy guarantees, performance benefits, etc - they should siphon some of the profit off the number of for-profit companies that build electron apps

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I kinda like the idea but I also kinda hate it.

I really wish PWAs worked properly cross-platform instead. :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

totally agree, but also you can do more with an electron-like app - elevated privileges, less sandbox, etc because the user expects such things from an installed “native” app

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

SSB was killed after it sat behind an about:config flag, then their telemetry (that most power users disable) reported folks weren’t using. But what average users would be using a setting they would need to poke around to find. It’s a real shame too since I want to say it was PeppermintOS that was largely built around PWAs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Pretty standard for Mozilla logic if you have watched the features cut over the years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago