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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Editing my comment.

There is a connection between the two boys that has led them to a place where this seems to be acceptable behavior. It's something they share but is also fairly unique since most families aren't producing multiple potential or actual school shooters.

I am interested to see what underlying causes are identified, if any.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

theres no one cause for it, but the long list of stepping stones starts at american culture as a whole

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's almost always bullying or abuse at home, but no one ever admits it. These people were mentally and/or physically tortured by other people. They want revenge or to inflict a fate worse than they were given. But we keep acting like bullying still isn't an issue and that these people were just messed up naturally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My bet is on dysfunctional family - maybe child sa, maybe mental illness or other trauma/combination of traumas. Our society is unstable (Ie: pandemic) and they feel out of control, maybe abandoned, and this is the only way they feel powerful.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't just go after him, but also the person who was ready to sell him a gun illegally.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Except he was arrested after trying to, so... No one was actually "ready" to sell him one illegally.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What the fuck! I still don't understand why a school. Don't shoot up other things, but why a school?

Fuck these people.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because its one if the few places you can be nearly 100% certain no one will fire back. Shoot up a restaurant, mall, church, park, etc you will receive return fire from lawful carriers almost immediatly, especially in Texas.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If congress got shot up as often as schools did, some sane gun control might actually happen.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are more guns in the US than people (some estimates have it at nearly 2 to 1). You cant stop people from getting them any more than the war on drugs stopped people from buying weed.

What really needs to happen is solving the root issue of violence. Poverty and a lack of access to healthcare (which includes mental healthcare).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

its true, making something illegal and actually enforcing it has never resulted in less of that thing anywhere ever

these guns are not magically appearing in the hands of killers and these kids are not buying their guns through their extensive maffia connections

theyre being mass produced legally, imported legally, advertised legally, sold legally and carried legally at a scale that would be entirely impossible to match illegally

i honestly have no idea how folks can genuinely believe that letting mossberg and glock set up multimillion dollar factories and buy ads online, on tv or in the paper has 0 effect on the amount of guns in the USA, or that guns being a totally legal and normal thing for regular, law abiding dads to buy and own without having to contact their friendly neighborhood gang representative has no effect on the amount of kids getting their hands on them

it's so entirely ridiculous of a view to have that you have to be lying

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I never said it wouldn't have an affect. I said fixing the root cause would be far more affective.

And if you read the article youd know this kid was trying to buy illegally. Reinforcing my point that you can't stop people from getting them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Stupid doesn't just run in that family, it gallops.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This kid’s mother seems like a good egg. It has got to be difficult to call the cops on your kid like that, but she did it asap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

She did it knowing that her family would be lambasted by the public as well. Maybe dont try to shame them or group them together--she did the right thing. The next mom might not if everyone dogpiles onto this one.