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Members of Brazil’s supreme court have unanimously voted to uphold the ban on X, after Elon Musk’s refusal to comply with local laws led to the social network being blocked in one of its biggest markets.

On Monday, five of the court’s justices were asked to consider Friday’s decision to temporarily banish X from Brazil, where the platform has more than 21 million users. By lunchtime all five had voted in favour of the ban.

Casting his vote in favour of X’s continued suspension, Flávio Dino said the company’s decision to “deliberately” ignore a court order to name a legal representative in Brazil suggested it “considered itself above the rule of law”.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Refusal to comply with local laws suggests social media company ‘considered itself above the rule of law’

Seems like a correct observation to me.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

It's almost as if companies are used to do whatever the fuck they want and the moment there's pushback you have pissing, screaming and gnashing of teeth.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Either that or they think the market isn't worth the effort. Which is fine. I hope other countries follow. Then do the same with meta.

[–] Kecessa 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Their third most active market that they just lost

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

It might be their third most popular country but that doesn't necessarily mean it's profitable. Brazil isn't exactly known for spending a lot on things like Twitter Blue or ads, especially per capita.

I have a theory they looked at the numbers and realized that shedding the load would save more money than they would gain by staying. But then again that might be giving Elon too much credit.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The really funny thing here is that Elon's Twitter has openly complied with censorship orders from Hungary already. The free speech stuff is fake. Twitter does overt political censorship on request.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Hungarian twitter community is very small, I’d be surprised if it were a censorship target. Do you have a source on this?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My bad, it was Turkey, not Hungary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Even if it somehow gets reinstated, the damage is done. Majority have already left for alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

The funny thing is, the right in America are trying to push laws that make the company responisible for user posted content.

If that happens, and I go to twitter and post something illegal, I'M still liable for breaking the laws, but now so is twitter.

So eventually, if he tries to be above the law in America, SOMEBODY is going to post child porn. Then, by their own laws, twitter is liable for that illegal action.

This is going to lead to one of two things. Either

  1. Twitter shuts down

Or

  1. Musk goes to jail.

Aw hell.....who am I kidding? It's going to be "Well, he's one of us. It's a big club, and you ain't in it".

He'll pay a 2 million dollar fine, which is peanuts to him, and this shitty world will keep on going.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

They're Brazilians mate, even if the ban gets lifted in 10 years and xitter is somehow around, Brazilians will immediately flock back to it. They have unconditional love for their social media

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not gonna lie my inner child would be delighted to see Brazil shooting down Starlink satellites.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

they don't need to, they just need to seize the ground PoPs and block ips to make it unusably slow.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I thought StarLink had inter-satelite laser links? Theoretically it should be faster than a VPN out of the country because light travels faster in a vacuum. But maybe this was another one of Elon's "full self driving next year!" features.