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[–] [email protected] 261 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

It’s hilarious that the entire point was to draw focus on how Biden fucked up the withdrawal from Afghanistan (while following Trump & literal Taliban combined plan), but all anybody is talking about now is how disrespectful Trump & company is. His purpose for doing this is entirely lost now.

Edit: taliban not isis

[–] [email protected] 103 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States–Taliban_deal which was entirely negotiated and ratified by the Trump administration 🙄

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If I recall Trump said "they couldn't stop even if they tried"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Crowing about it because he will use it as an attack later. Just like the tax bomb set to raise income tax for regular Americans after Donald's term.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Donald Trump is not a smart man. He didn't become the threat that he is due to his own skilful manoeuvring. He became a threat because the institutions that are supposed to oppose people like him have failed.

Now that, for the first time in his political career, he's up against an opponent with basic competence he can't do anything other than flail impotently.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I didn't care for her, but Clinton I would say had more than basic competence, though she didn't really have much charisma, is pretty unlikable, forced out Bernie Sanders, chose a completely forgettable running mate, was running as an establishment candidate in a "change" election, and has a blatant desire for power. It all worked against her, though she did still win the popular vote. Still fairly competent though.

I would argue Harris is in a similar situation as Clinton, though she apparently had the sense to at least pick someone more likable than herself and her almost invisible tenure as VP actually may work to her advantage. Otherwise, she's not incredibly charismatic on her own and could be in trouble at the debate with Trump, though his elderly, stroke-addled brain may help her out.

But if it gets into the same sort of thing like in his debate with Biden, where Trump is just throwing out BS bombs left and right, and all Kamala does is just uselessly flail around trying to address his BS points one by one, I think she'll be in trouble. She needs to cut through the BS and present herself as the adult in the room, and make Trump seem infantile and ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Wait. Who was her running mate in 2016? I legitimately don't remember. Wow.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tim Kane. I watched his debate with pence and was impressed.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Kane?

Edit:Kaine

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I had the exact same reaction and had to look it up. Hard to argue with the completely forgettable tag.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

All agreed. The Clinton's are political animals, best of the best at the game, but Hilary doesn't share her husband's over-the-top charisma. She works best behind the scenes, not on camera kissing babies.

And this hilarious meme hit far too close to home.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Literally been screaming this since her time as SoS... Hill-Dawg should have run in NY's bluest blueberry of a US House district and then taken the reigns from Pelosi in 2022. She's masterful at running the inner party show... she got that "do it or I'll burn your house down" energy so few people have (liken to LBJ, Pelosi, Cave Johnson, etc).

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I was expecting a major crisis when Harris took over since she did abysmally in the 2020 primary. She was one of the first "serious" candidate to drop out, not even making it to 2020. Shes essentially just cruising on "not an old white guy"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I actually remember her being a standout at the debates until Tulsi Gabbard managed to latch onto a line of attack that hurt her credibility as the progressive candidate that she was presenting herself as. Shortly after that traction was lost I think she saw the writing on the wall and exited gracefully, which obviously worked in her favor because it made it easy for Biden to tap her for VP.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not much of a platform for sure but she's absolutely humiliating Trump which seems to be working to put down the facists, so hey I'll take it.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Even if it worked, that's just more hypocritical nonsense.

"Biden messed up, these 13 Americans are dead. Not quite as many people as I killed by messing up a pandemic response, or by blowing the cover of American spies, but if I get in office again I'm sure my decisions will kill a lot more people. What were we talking about again?"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

literal Isis

You mean the Taliban's plan, the US negotiated the withdrawal with the Taliban.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It is crazy to expect the Afghanistan military to fight when the US president negotiated handover of Afghanistan with the Taliban

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[–] [email protected] 140 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Please please please start another speakership crisis 🙏

[–] [email protected] 106 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

ah, yes, the infamous Mierdes Touch

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

¡Ay Dios Mío!

[–] [email protected] 100 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Man, ever since Biden dropped out, the fascists have been even more incompetent than usual. I'm gonna assume it's from them panicking.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

Here's the thing, a weak Democrat candidate meant the GOP could ride the curtail of a natural red wave born from voter dissatisfaction into another Trump presidency. They didn't have to try faced with Biden so they didn't have as many opportunities to show their incompetence.

Now democrats have rallied and the writing is on the wall that Trump isn't good enough just by the virtue of being the republican choice. He actually has to try, which he hasn't done since 2016, and he's pretty bad at trying.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 months ago

That is just Trump showing his usual respect for the military and especially the "losers" (according to him) - those who paid the ultimate price to protect the country.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Using dead soldiers as a political prop. Keep it classy, Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Support the Troops was only a catchy political slogan.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 months ago

I hope this thing has legs and plagues them endlessly.

[–] Grass 52 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This is another guy I feel is untrustworthy just based on his face alone.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It was the whole. Family porn tracking app thing that skeeved me the fuck out.

Imagine being the secret service IT guy who has to build a firewall around that creepy fuck's wank bank for National Security interests.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

It has a sort of "I raped your cat but you can't prove it" energy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Then his smarmy ass is just as guilty

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Mike Johnson with actual power would be a living hell. Turkmenistan levels of living hell. If he had as much power as Trump he'd be at the very least equally as dangerous. If he actually gets his career ruined over this (doubt it) and fucks off forever i'll sleep better at night.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago

ahahahahahahahahahahaha

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What's with the devil horn finger gesture two women are making in the picture?

[–] VeryNiiiice 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Pretty sure it's the University of Texas' ~~A&M university's~~ "hook 'em" sign.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Fuck Ron Johnson.

Yes, I know it's the wrong Johnson but, still, it needs to be said.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But they loooooove the troops, right? Right?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They love the troops like they love women: things to be talked about, controlled and used as you see fit, then thrown away and never thought of again (until there's a scandal anyway).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

If only avoiding Trump was as easy as avoiding porn!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I feel bad for the Marckesano family. It's so hard to bury a loved one who served our country, with all the pressures and hardships involved. It's an unfair and unexpected addition to a hard time like this.

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